Patrick Moore, Greenpeace Co-Founder, Says ‘No Scientific Proof’ Climate Change

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  1. BroncoBilly

    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whoops, a Environmental PHD saying they are full of crap? Saying it is a cult religion? It is absolutely a fact not about science, but about guessing. Below is a comment from the article that say it best about the climate nazi's.

    "It is about as sound as any application of the Drake Equation -- the "science" behind "nuclear winter" (already shown to be a false concept) and SETI..

    You have an open system with an infinite number of variables. So when you model it, you "simplify it" and reduce the number of variables. In other words, you GUESS.

    When did guessing become science?"

    http://www.ibtimes.com/patrick-moor...tific-proof-climate-change-caused-humans-poll
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And the global warming Hoaxsters have given up trying to use science to advance their failed agenda because that science has been proven wrong over an over again now they are using the Alinsky tactic of ridiculing and shamming detractors into silence by calling them part of the flat earth society
     
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    Gee I wonder if the mainstream media is gonna repeat this story multiple times a day 24/7 forever and ever? Nah, better to just ignore it, pretend like it never happened, and continue to repeat that which they've been programmed to say.

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    Gee I wonder if the mainstream media is gonna repeat this story multiple times a day 24/7 forever and ever? Nah, better to just ignore it, pretend like it never happened, and continue to repeat that which they've been programmed to say.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stating the truth will get you labeled as a "denier".
     
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    Hard-Driver Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "The science has been proven wrong"... "given up on using science...." These quote just show how deeply your head is buried in the sand trying not to see the science. People ignore the science because they have a political agenda, as it appears that this guy does. This guy was kicked out of Greenpeace in 1986, not sure why the global warming deniers are trying to play up his Greenpeace ties when he has had no ties to them in 28 years.

    So the global climate change people have found a denier once tied to an environmental group... you can find all sorts of people in the world, like people who think the world is 6000 years old or that evolution is a fraud. Doesn't mean their opinions are right.
     
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    over 95% of global warming predictions have been wrong. how many times does a science need to be found wrong before it loses all creditability and isn't a science anymore
    fortune tellers with a crystal ball have a better success rate
     
  7. Hoosier8

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    Spoken like a true believer using dismissive wording without actually addressing any of the science that is not in complete agreement with CAGW, which is really most of it BTW since science is by definition about skepticism. I can do the same as you and call you a hiatus denier, ignoring the obvious failure of the modeling that CAGW is based on.
     
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    AGW....It's the new Phlogiston theory. Unfortunately people have big bucks tied up in this one, so they arent going to let it go as easilly, even when shown to be mistaken.
     
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    When the obama and pals paid "scientists" to tell them what they wanted to hear......

    Global Warming, is Paul Krugmans alien invasion.

    [video=youtube;jaED2ErdIv8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaED2ErdIv8[/video]
     
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    He's one of those crazy scientists though. Ignore him. Move along folks...didn't a republican say a bad word or cause a little traffic? THAT'S NEWS!!!!!
     
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    Moore was an insider and gives us this view:

    Bingo.
    And the warmists eat it up.



    No kidding.
     
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    Congrats on finding another outlier. Meanwhile, most climate experts believe that humans are affecting climate change.
     
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    so it doesnt fit your agenda so insult him..typical liberal...there is no hope
     
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    Exactly true. Their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) science says, "the debate is over", or "the debate is settled". Yeah, real science indeed.
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Try paying attention instead of just your rent. He said "there is climate change". Here, I will repeat it, "there is climate change", but there is no proof that it is caused by humans. Perhaps you should try reading my OP, because there are an infinite amount of variables that contribute to climate change, not just humans like the cult you support says.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Maybe democrats should pass a law, declaring the Sun, illegal.....
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh yes, most experts BELIEVE humans are the cause, with no proof over a very complex system with unlimited variables. Your cult uses the words you just used, "deniers", "outlier", ( whatever the F that means). Try reading some of what Moore said before you cast anymore of your liberal insults

    Moore said that warmists are a religions cult, and it is proving more true each and every day
     
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    If you were told by 99 mathematicians that 2+3=9, would you believe them?? Being in the majority does not make you right, being right makes you right.
    Take a look at this if you're open to having your preconceptions challenged. It's nothing but a site that shows well established and proven facts about anthropogenic greenhouse gases. Everything here is based on FACTS, not computer models or cherry-picked subsets, but the foundational facts about anthropogenic greenhouse gases. If you have studies that don't line up with these basic facts, then the studies are wrong. It's like if you went to a banker and asked him to show an amortization schedule and you noticed that every time he added numbers together, the results weren't correct. You can have 100 bankers use the same math and it's still going to be wrong. Start with the foundations of greenhouse gases and how anthropogenic gases effect the greenhouse effect and work from there.
    http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
     
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    uh oh, better try and discredit Patrick Moore with peer review.....



    science isn't wrong.... but what GWarmist are doing is promoting a political agenda under the GUISE of science.
     
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    I find it VERY hard to understand why Americans seem to consider the immense problems global Human society are facing because of climate change should be considered to be about political opinion. Have you really not noticed the climate in every part of our planet has CHANGED? Have you not noticed how bad the climate changes occurring in the USA are impacting you, if you are incapable of caring about the huge numbers being killed and devestated in other parts of the world, regardless whether for a particular region it might seem beneficial or be negative. The multi-national Insurance companies have recognised this for years and continue to be concerned, after all they are the multi-national BIG guys that it is going to hit hardest first.

    Farmers in 3rd world nations are being well stuffed, because they can no longer rely on their expectations from past climate patterns. Those living on Pacific atolls are facing steadily rising sea levels, and they do NOT have inland mountainous regions to retreat to that those living on volcanic islands like Hawaii do.

    As far as most of our multi-national corporations are concerned, climate change is GODD for business, enabling them to increase their profits. Perhaps this is the main reason that the multiple meetings between representatives of national governments to determine agreements have conspicuouly failed, year after year, for decades now. Stuff the future of humanity if it might possibly interfere with the smallest profit some multi-national might squeeze out of the vast majority human population of Earth that they have absolutely no regard for and don't give a toss about.

    Why do we continue to believe the lie that their so total dominance and control over SOCIETY'S resources is actually legitinate instead of just a major con job! The people who control most of the resources in the world do nothing to create them, they are blood-sucking parasites on human society, and they need to be told to STOP hoarding society's wealth. Do they really need to engage in harsh, ruthless, environmentally damaging activities so that they can increase their (supposed) personal wealth from 32 billion dollars to 32.5 billion dollars, to the financial detriment of 5000 ordinary people? Because that seems to be most of theirs current attitude to the rest of us. We are nothing, simply a resource they can manipulate to increase fantastical but meaningless numbers.
     
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    Actually scientists are often wrong but that is how science improves. There is no place for consensus in science.
     
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    the problem is that only 1 of those infinite variables has currency...which everyone wants more of naturally.... so thats the only one thats being considered.
     
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    Three more years of executive orders could handle that.

    "I have a pen, and a phone"... and all that tripe.

    btw, wb.
     
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    yep.... but none of the global warming cult seems to think that their science has been proven wrong by better science.
     
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    If you want to believe a west virginia fossil site about global warming,,, fine.

    I'll take Nasa: http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators

    Here is more evidence: http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm

    So satellites have measured the energy from the sun hitting earth and the energy released back into space and have measured the decrease in radiated heat. This is a direct measurement of greenhouse effect. And we have also measured the warming of the oceans, the loss of glaciers, and the increase in global temperature. And the amounts of energy retained matches computer models of what greenhouse effects the changing atmosphere will produce....

    But there is no science to this for some. That is only true if you deliberately ignore the science.
     

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