Ten year old suspended from public school for making gun sign

Complete overreaction from the school...

 

Arm our children and blame Obama.... Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ohhhh ha ha ha ha ha

Sure this is a stupid suspension... but to leap to arm our children and blame Obama.... really, this has to be a joke, because it makes suspending this kid for a gun sign look brilliant.

 

How can you "pretend" to hijack a plane? Since when can a plane fit into a classroom

 

really man? you going to tell me that you didnt pretend your hand was a gun sometimes when you were a kid? i know i did and im just fine. oh and pretending to hijack a plane would be very dangerous as the joke could cause heart attacks,panic and other injuries. big difference between playing cowboys and indians and pretending to hijack an airliner.

 

It dfepends on the context.

If you were doing this to particular kids you were bullying or threatening already, this action is a clear sign of a threat to shoot someone.

A kid needs to learn such a thing is NEVER acceptable, because by the time he is twelve, such an action could get him 10 years in jail in California with gang enhancements..

Three days suspension is too kind in that situation.

 

you want to arm our school children?


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say bomb on a plane or fire in a theater... with so many school shootings, this is just one think schools do not want to see, no pretending to shoot your fellow students

when laws like this are in play, common sense is not used, just try it on a plane as a joke and see just how funny people think it is, they would probably strap you down, land the plane and cart ya off to jail, when common sense says they could of just told ya to knock it off, but that would not prevent future people from doing it


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Yeah, right.... yet, you liberals see absolutely nothing wrong w/the violent, bloody movies that liberal Hollywood produces for the public to see, including the kids - not to mention the foul, violent lyrics of the rapper's 'music' and the violent 'shoot 'em up' video games they have access to......

But if a 10 yr old boy goofs off w/his friends, as the article said, and shapes his hand into a gun.... you get all hysterical and paranoid.

You 'zero tolerance' idiots don't make any sense at all..... how come you don't know that?

 

That's dumb - kids, especially young guys pretend a lot of things - it's totally normal for a young boy to 'pretend' he's shooting someone else - doesn't mean he's going to be a terrorist when he grows up

If you think that way then you might's well convert to fundamentalist Christianity and join Jack Chick's cult if you think a boy (gasp) pretending to shoot someone means he's gonna kill a bunch of people when he gets older - I mean that's the kind - some of these left-wing extremists have more in common with Christian fundies than they think

 

Zero tolerance is stupid , specially when it comes to children.
Since guns are part of your culture you have to learn how to live with them .

 

lol wow, yes lets hand him a stiffer suspension and get him farther behind on his learning. good one, you are too funny.

 

I suppose in US, where every year a mass slaughter by crazed boys with guns happens, pointing a finger in such a way is terribly different than other states. In a country where owning pistols and rifles is perfectly legal for most people i think it assumes a whole different mean, expecially to paranoid teachers, terrorized at hte idea of a kid turning into mass slaughter.

 

Yes it is all right to pretend to shoot with your fingers because it is harmless play. In my day we played cops & robbers and used our hands as pretend guns all the time. Hell, we even used cap guns sometimes. No harm done. But today's pansy liberals want to shove political correctness down everyone's throat. Common sense be damned.

 

I read a Time's article where it quoted a teacher as saying to the children in general..."if you keep on doing this there will be consequences". So in effect perhaps the "Zero Tolerance" is in place when the child is a problem in class. I haven't seen the actual policy or verbage. But what I gather is if the student is a problem---enough for the teacher to even get him out of the classroom...then their is a certain amount of tolerance involved until it gets to that "problem" catagory. Personally, I don't have tolerance for a child that is an ongoing problem...consequences ARE in order. We don't know this situation enough to stamp blame on a policy. It might be a tool the teacher needs in some situations.

 

I made mention of that. Sometimes, a kid is such a class disruption, and due to issues like the kid being labeled ESE, he can't be suspended for more than 10 total days (unless it's something big) without jumping through MAJOR hoops. So if a disruptive kid has already had his 10 days, yet continues to be a complete ass.... disrupts the rest of the class from learning (whether he's a popular to the kids disruption, or a PITA to other students disruption), nothing happens to the kid when you send him up to the office.

I've literally seen kids sent to the office for running around the class, snatching pencils from other students and throwing them before running to the next one, and knocking off their books, to the next one wadding up their paper.... just to be sent back 10 minutes later, with a shi teating grin on their face because the office didn't want to deal with him, or didn't feel the major hoops they had to jump through were warranted for this issue, or they don't want to discipline the kid because it would be a documented case and make the school look bad. The office scolds him, and sends him back to class.


Now, that gets fustrating very quickly, especially if the student comes back doing the same disruptive crap just as soon as they come back. At this point, teachers have been known to find other things to enforce so it can't be twisted and dismissed as "poor teacher classroom management"

That ******** kid..... better make damn sure he doesn't bring a butter-knife for lunch, or make a finger gun and go up behind someone and shoot their head..... or a teacher with no other options will DANG sure see that incident....

I worked at a pretty good school but even we had a kid like this.... suspended over 50 days (fights so it was a big thing each time, and major hoops had to be jumped through every time) The problem was, he was also a HUGE PITA in class. COMPLETE disruption. But nothing would ever get done about it by the admin who then started implying we should run our class better. It took getting caught with drugs (zero-tolerance) before he got expelled and moved to a more discipline type of alternative school before we could actually teach in the class he was in.

 

we never played cops in Robers in school, didn't even need to be told it was wrong, we just knew it

 

why is it wrong?

 

Doesn't have to. When we were kids we'd spread our arms and pretend to be a plane....simple?

If to day's teachers and other PC educators could have seen us when we were kids playing with our clicker-guns shooting at each other they'd all be frothing at the mouth and collapsing in a convulsive fit.

 

What a wussies childhood you must have had. No fun at all?
Never bent tin cans around your shoes and pretended to be riding a horse?

I guess that by today's rules you'd be charged with animal cruelty.

 

Have you been keeping up w/these cases of suspended kids? A Kindergarten girl suspended for telling a classmate she was going to shoot her w/her Hello Kitty BUBBLE gun, which was at home in her bedroom......a KINDERGARTEN kid....

A 7-8 yr old girl who's grandfather had drawn a pix of a gun the night b/f, the paper got mixed in w/her school papers, she saw the pix, got up to throw it away, the teacher saw the paper w/a real scary gun drawn on it and the girl was suspended......

Of course we have all heard about the 8-9 yr old boy who CHEWED his PopTart into a scary gun and he was suspended. You must have heard about this case? it was all over the news.... well, the liberal networks wouldn't air it, but it was on Fox several times, interviewing the boy and his dad. The innocence of the boy - he had no idea what he had done that was so bad b/c HE had the intelligence to know it was just a Poptart, not a gun.........

Several yrs ago a 6 yr old Boy Scout received his BS utensil and he was so proud of it, he took it to school to eat his lunch w/it.... you know, it had a little fork, knife, spoon? It dropped on the floor, the paranoid teacher saw it. The innocent 6 yr old was suspended for bringing a scary 'weapon' to school, but to him it was a fork, knife, and spoon to eat his lunch with.... must have been the big, scary knife that scared the crap out of the teacher......

Of course if a kid is a trouble maker or always out of line, always disrupting the class he/she has to be dealt w/and face the consequences, but there is a long, long list of innocent suspended grade school kids, so the 'zero tolerance policy is in place when the kid is a continual problem' is not true...... and the Time magazine is a very liberal magazine.

I don't mean to sound harsh - it's not you, I just get so infuriated and disgusted at the liberal mindset. Look at he 'entertainment' that's barfed out of liberal Hollywood that is nothing but sheer violence, 'shoot 'em up' movies/tv shows, the violent video games that young kids have access to, the foul-mouth, violent lyrics spewing out of the mouths of these rappers that they call 'music'... of course,the kids are exposed to this garbage and on a daily basis, to them it's life.... BUT if an 8-9 yr old boy chews his poptart into a 'gun'..... holy crap! Time to call in the SWAT team! This kid is a potential mass murderer and he deserves to be suspended for showing 'violence' in his POPTART!

The lack of common sense in the liberal brains is beyond astounding. Expose the kids to violence, but if kids act like kids, well slap them down, make them feel how 'bad' they are and their 'disgusting' behavior of showing 'violence' won't be tolerated and kids aren't stupid -they get the message loud and clear that they're not wanted in their classroom, so they have to go home for awhile, so their classmates will feel 'safer' w/o them there.......

God, I hate liberalism.... they don't have the brains it would take to blow them to hell....no common sense, no rationale, no understanding that kids are just kids. They go thru phases as they mature... something that's way beyond a lib's comprehension.....

So while Junior is suspended from school for 'threatening' to shoot someone w/his hand or even scarier - his poptart, he's at home playing violent video games or watching a 'shoot 'em up' tv show...

Yeah, now that makes sense......

Ok, I'm thru w/my rant........maybe.

 

Didn't you ever play cowboys and Indians or army as a kid?

 

Why is it wrong?

I guess you didn't play games of any kind for fear of being the loser too?

 

Ok, now I'm curious..... I take it you're a guy? What were your activities when you were a kid and why did you think playing 'cops n robbers' was 'wrong'?

 

you can play those things outside the classroom... why disrespect those that want to learn

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you can play those things outside the classroom... why disrespect those that want to learn

"we never played cops in Robers in school, didn't even need to be told it was wrong, we just knew it"


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Well, I wasn't talking about playing cops n robbers IN school. By the time kids are in kindergarten, they know the routine...

But are you saying you never goofed off, fooled around even once during your 12 yrs in school? Get serious - no kid is THAT perfect.