MOD ALERT ~ people want God

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  1. iamkurtz

    iamkurtz Banned

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    What is 'bad' about the Bible?

    I understand. You cherry pick the verses that comport with your agenda.

    I also understand why you think God is evil. He does not believe in self worship as you do.

    Do you believe that you inventing a god unto yourself is any different than my belief in my God?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    but shoudl there even be verses to cherry pick from?

    would a God seriously order people killed for picking up sticks on a weekend? if you believe the bible he would...

    would a God seriously tell someone to kill their Son and later tell him just kidding... bible God would

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    I didn't say they were facts, but not being a fact does not make something a fable either, especially when the theory is based on real evidence which can and will change if or when new evidence is discovered. Surely you're sharp enough to tell the difference between storytelling(which doesn't change when contradictory information exists) and scientific theory(which does).
     
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    You picked what fit your agenda. Typical.

    Would your god give his life for others?

    Would your god die so you can live?
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    What anger?
     
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    iamkurtz Banned

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    A fact is a truth. Therefor if creation is fable because it lacks facts then so is evolution for the same reason.
     
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    it's hard to tell the difference sometimes, but as were all anonymous on the internet, the possibility is always there
     
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    Asked and answered.
     
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    Meaning?
     
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    It is an observation that it's difficult, if not impossible, to distinguish between parodies of fundamentalism or other extreme views and their genuine proponents, since they both seem equally insane. For example, some conservatives consider noted homophobe Fred Phelps to be so over-the-top that they argue he's a "deep cover liberal" trying to discredit more mainstream homophobes.
     
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    iamkurtz Banned

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    Understood. Now who were you referring to as 'poe'?
     
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    Hollywood movies are just entertainment.

    The movie Noah is based on the biblical and worldwide historical event that happened a few thousands of years ago. This movie is not following the biblical records but the ideas of the producer, it is understood that this is his film and he can omit, change and add whatever he pleases to his art work.

    Amanzingly, he shows that in Noah's time the world had a sole continent. What the bible says is that the waters from below ground (read the news that today has been accepted the water mantle underground that still existing in our planet) perhaps caused by the intense heat from the deep hot core, burst out and broke the sole continent in several parts. The big wound between America and Europe still exists after a few thousand years, and the several organizations exploring deep seas have documented the continued flowing out of lava. In the 50's and 60's the measured separation rate between America and Europe was calculated at 5 meters per year. (the submerged telephone communication cables were over their original deep location due to the pulling of both continents going apart).

    Today, the rate of separation between these two continents is a few inches per year. The rate of separation after the worldwide event called "Mabul" (in the Torah Mabul means "desvastation" instead of flood and might imply water as one of the causes) was very fast. In the bible the day of the noticeable separation of the continents is recorded by the birth of Peleg, who's name means "division" because in his day the lands separate themselves one from another. This event was a few generations after Noah. This explains easily how species were caught in separated lands and survived and passed through degenerate changes until today. For example, right after the separation of the continents we had horses in America, but horses can assimilate only 25% of the food, while cows assimilate 75 plus % of what they eat. It is possible that a long period of dry season caused the extinction of horses in America while other species with greater capacity of food assimilation survived the drouth.

    The movie shows Noah as possesed with the idea that God wants to destroy humanity, that means, completely from the face of earth. This idea of Noah is contradictory, because let's say that God used him to built the ark and make the survival of the several species. what was the purpose to tell him to get inside with the wife and the children? The ark is not a ship, Noah is not the captain of the ship. The ark is just that, an ark built that way that will float, that's all.

    If God wanted destroy humanity, ther was no need to let the children of Noah getting into the Ark. In this part, the ideas of the movie producer fall into a limbo, where contradiction after contradiction will make the story more interesting and laughable.

    I like the movie as entertainment because the special effects are great, the acting is -of course- very good, I enjoyed a good movie.

    But, this movie won't help if your intentions are based on religious means, like viewing this movie to have a panoramic view of the biblical records.

    Another movie that yes indeed is more related and better focused to religion and God, is the movie "God's not dead". If your wishes are to check a film related to religion and God, then this is a good movie for this purpose.

    Noah is more entertainment and less religion based movie. Still, I like it, it is a good entertaiment movie.
     
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    Could be two poes in a row but i fear the worst.
     
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    No. You simply asserted falsehoods. Where is this anger you claim I have?
     
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    So to you, there's no difference between a Stephen King novel and a scientific textbook?
     
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    would your god kill every human on the planet, mothers, fathers, children, animals, plants, ect.. except a boatload full? according to the bible he would and he would do it intentionally

    why drown them, why not just snap his fingers and make them no more.... does he get pleasure from killing things?

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    Money may have something to do with the many films. Everyone likes to jump on the hot ticket item.

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    It is written in the bible.
     
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    Agreed, people want God. That does not mean there IS a god.
     
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    What do you mean 'want God, the bible, christ and prayer'? If I go watch the 'Fantastic Four', does that mean I want superheros?

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    Binary thinking. Good-Evil. Happy-Angry. Right-wrong. There are no other options.
     
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    Now you know that's getting too intellectual, you're going to just go right over his head.
     
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    Huh? Why just not start creation all over. This time get it right.

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    Are you being serious or sarcastic?
     
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    Nor yet (shudder) any shades of grey between night and day.

    But I am hoping that a guy who pulls out that many moldy cliched ideas that quickly
    must surely be just trying to make findies look brainless? If so he neednt bother.
    Or actually, either way its so lame, so obvious, we dont need it pointed out yet again.
     
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    Never mind. Serious is the answer.
     
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    Its a Poe convention!

    ( i hope....?)
     
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    How about, if you recreate something from the thing you killed because it was flawed, it will come out flawed all over again?
    Better to start from scratch and improve from the mistakes of the 1st try.
     
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