The Incredible Shrinking Jesus

Apparently you think you're a dirt clod. You probably also think that the world was created a few thousand years ago. Stardust takes billions of years.

 

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Noun 1.delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
delusion, psychotic belief - (psychology) an erroneous belief that is held in the face of evidence to the contrary
megalomania - a psychological state characterized by delusions of grandeur

 

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Finally our beloved poe is posting messages with sense.

Tell me, do you really think that your cells, minerals, elements come from somewhere else other than the ground of our planet? Hello?

OK, please take a number, have a sit, a doctor will see you in a moment... you are not aggressive, right? if you think that yes, please let's know to provide you a room with soft walls and floor... "Human beings are a type of ape"... ha ha ha... that is not ignorance... such is lunacies...

Lack of understanding is found in each one of your thoughts. First, one thing is historical records collected by the chronology of some actions, and a complete different scenario is the succession of steps required to fulfill a chronology of a species. You can't lean on evolution because this hypothesis enjoys gaps by lots from a single cell into a macro-organism like the ape. Do you understand now? The hypothesis of evolution fails miserably in this aspect, it does not have enough evidence to justify its doctrines. Period.

About Jesus. The birth is recorded. The circumcision and taking of Jesus (firstborn) a few days later to the Temple is also recorded The taking of Jesus to the Temple when he was 12 years old is recorded (Bar Mitzvah) His starting point at 30 years old to preach around is recorded (30 years of age is the age required for this purpose) So, what gaps are you talking about? The bible mentions what is important and necessary, or what do you expect? The bible mentioning what he was doing every Monday at 3:00 pm? what time he woke up everyday? what was his favorite food? what rock music group was his favorite?... and so forth? Lol... give me a break! You surely ignore the style of historical data recorded in the bible. Ignorance is your flag in this matter.

Lol, you have no idea. Scientists and followers have worked hard to deny religion, you have the best example here where the forum of religion is practically attacked by evolutionists and others who make mockery of religious people because their belief in God. I don't call such action as "ignoring religion". In this aspect you are incorrect again.

Finally I agree with you, because this is what freedom of speech is about. I do not accept fantasies like Relativity, black holes, parallel universes and similar man made imaginations that are good for infantile minds, and I understand that the authors of such crap can write and say whatever they want about their silly stupidities, but such is what freedom of speech is about. The same happen when someone wants to invent their own version based on a biblical event.

Well, listen and research. The oldest stars produce and recycle heavy elements. Note that heavy elements are the complex ones. The newer stars do not produce heavy elements but recycle them. The newer stars only produce metals. The planets do not produce heavy elements neither recycle them. The planets produce and recycle metals.

The elements of the primeval bodies were more complex, and have decayed into simpler elements throughout the existence of the universe. So, from more complex to more simpler the step is called degeneration. The degenerate status in the universe is observable and no one can deny it.

From here, with this strong evidence from physics, we study biology. We observe that the first cells were more complex, that the first macro-organisms were more complex as well, like dinosaurs with hundreds of teeth. The ancient horse had five digits and more teeth in males and females, the current female horse has less teeth, and both genders are monodactyl... losing of characteristics is a degenerate status from ancestors to offspring. Do you understand this observable fact? Even more, the alignment of the teeth of the former horse was almost perfect while today's horse had a disastrous alignment of teeth, even their teeth alignment is used as an insult when a person have a similar appearance of teeth formation. The decay is obvious.

The elements of the universe are in continuing decay and no species on earth can go in a different arrow but decay as well. We are made of the elements of the universe, for this reason we also decay.

You can't say that species go more complex throughout generations when their elements that are forming them are in continued decay, such is not happening.

Of course, ignorance is your flag and you can't swallow this fact, because you were taught lies about the elements of the universe and their absolute relationship with the living species on earth. The hypothesis of evolution goes against the proved decay of the elements of the universe, and this disagreement is enough to invalidate the hypothesis of evolution.

Tell me about science... lol...

 

Human Beings are in fact made up of STAR DUST.

Without Solar Fusion and Supernova Explosions....Human's would not exist.

AboveAlpha

 

I don't think you understand how I think and what I think. But that's not important.

Why and how is "stardust" able to exist? And why do you think the laws of biological evolution (theory of evolution) are a reason why startdust is existing? That's crazy, ¿isn't it?, because atoms are not living structures. An ironatom is like every other ironatom - there's no no difference between atoms, so no atom fits better than another one. And there's indeed not a billion of years evolution in case of atoms. Stardust (=all atoms without hydrogenium) are a product of the gravity of stars. Because the natural laws show to us mathematical structures we are able to create the mathematical laws we are calling natural laws. The process to find mathematical laws are on the other side a cultural and civilisatoric step - but the laws themselve were existing since ever, otherwise our explanations would be wrong. But our experiments show to us: We are not completly wrong. So if the universe is expanding for example it was once not existing - except our idea of reversibility would be wrong. But since it is existing we can say the universe had a structure full of informations.

My question was: "Give me please an example for something what is not a "product of billions of years of evolution acting on stardust" in your view on the world.. I asked you this because if everything is evolution in your view on the world then the expression "evolution" grows to become an empty phrase. But the answer you gave here were statements and not arguments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ck7JFmY88

 

Without universe nothing would exist. But it is not in this way. Something is here. Why? And if you are a message for example then this message needs a carrier in the world here - but is the carrier the message? - and could a world exist where a message needs no carrier? Or: If a message would be here without carrier - how could you notice this message?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6CHvY080Kw

 

Put the discoveries of religion on one side of the scale and climb on top of them. Then suddenly drop the discoveries of on the other side of the scale. Enjoy the ride! Hint: You'd better be wearing a space suit because you'll be leaving the solar system.

 

Live long and prosper [in peace]


ankh wedja seneb



May the Lord bless you and guard you
- יְבָרֶכְךָ יהוה, וְיִשְׁמְרֶךָ("Yebhārēkh-khā Adhōnāy weyishmerēkhā ...)

May the Lord make his face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you
- יָאֵר יהוה פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ, וִיחֻנֶּךָּ("Yāʾēr Adhōnāy pānāw ēlekhā wiḥunnékkā ...)

May the Lord lift up his face unto you and give you peace
- יִשָּׂא יהוה פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ, וְיָשֵׂם לְךָ שָׁלוֹם("Yissā Adhōnāy pānāw ēlekhā wiyāsēm lekhā shālōm.")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUF-jHyEuNg

 

Carlos...without getting into an argument with you just GOOGLE the word APE.

You can even go to Christian Websites such as the BIOLOGOS ORG....or any existing Encyclopedia....or go to the Vatican or Lutheran or any Protestant Sect Website except Baptists....and you well see that Human's are in FACT classified as an APE.

Human's HAVE always BEEN CALLED AN APE.

It is like saying a Turkey, Eagle, Sparrow and Parrots are all BIRDS.

Gorillas, Orangutans, Bonobos, Chimps and HUMAN are all APES.

AboveAlpha

 

No. This is new. To call a human being an "ape" is as sensefull as to call a human being a "piece of flesh".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDy3lQYPzS4

PS: It happend in the 198x that in biology the taxonomy was changed so a common group is now: Orang-Utans, Gorillas, Homo-sapiens, Bonobos, Chimpanzees. It's in this context interesting that AIDS was caused maybe because human beings cannibalized apes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMznNlfLXP4

 

Here...take a look at this link....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

Humans have always fit the criteria of what an APE is.

AboveAlpha

 

Call a policeman in Germany "ape" in a way he's not able to smile about - and then tell me how much money this will cost you. I don't think you will convince any judge in Germany the taxonomy of biology is more important than the first paragraph of our constitution: "Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar. Sie zu achten und zu schützen ist Verpflichtung jeglicher staatlichen Gewalt". ... Short translation of the essence of this sentence: "human dignity is inviolable"

[video=youtube;Dh4gUjdYl9M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh4gUjdYl9M[/video]

 

First of all I have spend a long time in Germany...mostly West Germany and West Berlin back in the day but I did get into East Berlin and a few other places I would bring up as I was part of the security for the very few and far between Cultural Exchanges that passed through the Brandenburg Gate and my German is rusty but at one time not too bad.....you VAZSHLAPIN YOU!!! LOL!! I can't remember how to spell it.

I knew several Stasi Agents in East Berlin and I used to bring them Walkman's and Levi's and even AM/FM Cassette Car Stereo's which were hard to get.

The does not EXIST a German Police Officer that would interfere with ANYTHING I was doing or said to them.

AboveAlpha

 

I don't have any idea what you like to say with the expression "vazshlapin" - could be "Waschlappen" (washcloth) - a synonym for "coward " because a washcloth shows nearly always backbone.

Congrats. You are still alive.

You made private business with Stasi members? Astonishing. We called such a behavior in those days "high treason".

That's only because you was maybe a Herrenmensch (=a member of the master race), Herrentier (=ape).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YC2H63DZao

 

Yeah...that's it....Waschlappen...although the East Berliner's I knew used it to call their Brother not a coward but more like that he did not stand his ground.

As far as the Stasi...it was part of my JOB to develop such relationships and it is always good to keep the back channels open just in case some insane Leader tries to so something insane.

I can tell you the Stasi absolutely HATED the KGB....as the KGB would come in and treat the Stasi as if they didn't know what they were doing.

I was always treated well in Germany and even in East Germany.

I have always made it a point to learn and immerse myself in the traditions, culture and language of any nation I might be in and treat people with respect.

The KGB did not do this and had absolutely no respect for German's as they only held contempt.

AboveAlpha

 

Who you are is who you know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxQZQ86jJHg

 

In my case it would be WHO I AM IS WHAT I KNOW.

I have NEVER been one to follow or use another to CLIMB in any manner be it socially or economically.

However I do admit as a kid I did get some very good advice from a Relative I will call..."UNCLE"....as at the time I was being highly recruited out of High School and back then we had all Military Service Branches and Intel. groups recruiters in the Schools Guidance Dept.

They all gave me their pitch and told me how much money for College I could get if I signed up...but I told them all no...and then "UNCLE"....came down to see me and really gave me great advice and helped set me up with a sweet deal as "UNCLE" explained it to me as THEY....want YOU....not the other way around.

Because of how I scored on a variety of Tests and one Test in particular which I prefer not to name but I scored at a level only 1200 people o Earth had ever scored and this test was very specific to what they needed me to do.

I was able to get my degrees on a VERY FLEXIBLE time frame and I did them...favors...from time to time and I was and still am VERY GOOD at doing such JOBS.

The very nature of what I do is to prevent possible conflicts and prevent small scale conflicts that already exist to turn into all out wars.

AboveAlpha

 

You are a member of the english speaking world - and that's what you know. Makes sense.

From my point of view you was playing strange games in a world you did not understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K8YxuWgPJ0

 

Oh...I understood it only all too well.

Germany was and still is a conquered nation and cannot do anything we would not allow them to do.

This is a simple fact.

AboveAlpha

 

Even if you accept all the mythology at face value as revealed truth.
You are left with a God that was abandoned by half the Angels, who would rather live in Hell than be with their divine creator.....and for them, they were actually in heaven, they actually saw God, and decided, that they couldn't take another minute of it, and gladly went to hell, as preferable to Heaven.....

 

Did you ever think about to speak with a psychologist about your problems?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK7S9XuxcSY

 

Really?

THAT...is your reply to me?

And you base this conclusion upon the amount of factual and proven data I have given you?

Please...by all means post to me what I have said you think is false or merits your post here.

AboveAlpha

 

I'm not interested in your opinions about me or Germany. I am I and I'm a German. That's all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7xGs1hv_LA

 

If your not interested why do you go out of your way to reply to my posts in such an angry manner?

AboveAlpha...p.s...your slip is showing.