Extremism must be targeted

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  1. mutmekep

    mutmekep New Member

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    If the government does not work as it must then they are the extremists not those opposing them.
    Without getting into the pointlessness of the right wing how you are suppose to fight the establishment? organized labor is almost banned, protests are criminalized , strikes are for Europeans while torture, abductions and surveillance are pretty much legal. Naturally those without any background in political thinking will amass near lunatics preaching about their guns , because their guns is all they have left as an illusion of free will.

    what the hell is that?
     
  2. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course, the TEA Party chose its name deliberately. The name is derived from the acronym Taxed Enough Already.

    What they have advocated is the limited and fiscally responsible government that our Forefathers created. The government that our nihilistic, neo-socialist president has pledged to fundamentally transform.

    Your question was both ignorant and irrelevant, and your inability to answer the questions that were put to you further speaks to that ignorance.

    I like most Australians, but I have no reason to care for neo-socialist Australian extremists such as yourself who call on our government to violate the human, civil and political rights of law-abiding American citizens. However, I have always thought that it is healthy and informative that you and your fellow "progressives" unleash your inner Stalinists and show your true authoritarian colors to the public. Your thread and posts are what we've come to expect from the faux-humanitarian Left, which is interested in only two things - power and control.

    Heh. The irony and hypocrisy...:roll:

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    A "progressive".
     
  3. twed

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    knows more about hitting targets, swifty, repeatedly and HARD, hmm?
     
  4. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, that came later... but you can't change history. Tea party activities have been focused on opposing all things Obama since before he took office. The Tea Party's name have been used by some as the backronym "Taxed Enough Already", which we've seen on this site, but that's only been in recent years. I haven't seen or heard that acronym before around 2010. If you have, I'd appreciate if it you posted it something about it.

    Yeah, I keep hearing that too. You may wan t to have another gander at the Tea Party's 15 non-negotiable core beliefs in post #73. Notice the top two have nothing to do with small government or fiscal responsibility.

    But please, mention nihilistic neo-socialist fascism again... it never gets old.

    Sorry, but I'm more American than you could ever hope to be.
     
  5. EggKiller

    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    Obama started his political career in the living room of one of the most infamous political bombers in the country but the tea party are extremists for scheduling rally's.
    I knew marijuana was a gateway drug, just knew it.
     
  6. Smartmouthwoman

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    Exactly my point. I'm guessing party believes what he sees on TV
     
  8. Soupnazi

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    Which conspiracies are those? SOme Alex Jones nonsense? Sorry he did not represent the tea party.

    In fact no the Tea party were not extremist. Shutting down the government can not be called a bad thing. Repealing Obamacare would be the first thing the GOP had done right in decades had they succeeded.

    ALso what other right wing garbage did the tea party push for?

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  9. Battle3

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    Perliger has been disproved & discredited by many people. Check your propaganda a little better before posting.




    You use Stormfront (a crazy white nationalist group) as representative of the Tea Party - LOL, in fact I cant type LOL big enough. You really don't have any clue.


    Wrong again, no West Point. Try Israel.

    And anyone who has had Political Science 101 knows the political spectrum os not linear as in right-left, but 2 dimensional. Perliger must gave slept through that part of class, or maybe its just not convenient to show that terrorism and tyranny are not a monopoly of "the far right" (which Perliger means is Christians, conservatives, people who believe in the Bill of Rights, libertarians - bascially everyone except progs). Its much more accurate to claim that socialist based ideology leads to tyranny, but that hits too close to home for a prog.

    ANd anyone that equates Christians with the Aryan Nation (or Tea Party with Stormfront) isnt worth squat when it comes to this subject, even if they somehow managed to put some letters after their nam.


    Didn't watch the video did you? The guy "legally recording" started the disturbance by interrupting the speaker, and when asked to leave started acting like a union thug and some of the people at the event responded. The guy was removed by the police - guess he wasnt so innocent after all.

    And to equate a couple of people in one video to all Tea Party people - well, I guess thats to be expected from people who dont read and watch their own links and make wild associations between completely unrelated groups.

    FAIL.
     
  10. Sanskrit

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    Agree 100%. That video is more a testament to police incompetence and slackness than anything. Anyone who stages any kind of event of any kind should firmly request police presence and if there is none, call the police at the first sign of disruption of the event. If you don't want dicks like the dude in the video disrupting, cordone off the area, post rules and hand them out as flyers. The left is constantly disrupting events they don't like, but with a little preparation you can foil their childish games.
     
  11. fourthhorseman

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    When should radicalism not be targeted? When it doesn't pose a threat, yet they target it anyway. When something emerges as dangerous, and poses a threat to democracy it should be met with, and not excessively targeted, for courses must be run, and society has to deal with this extremism on its own. Work diplomacy with the extremist, and if he's killing unjustly, kill this person lest there is reason not to. But revolutionary action shouldn't be targeted to suppress for revolution can advantage the people of the government. Know it, and pay attention, but don't excessively target it, for it can be invasive and contradict just intention.

    Excessively targeting someone doesn't mitigate the cause, and makes the person either regressively adverse to society or retaliatory.
     
  12. EggKiller

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    Quite funny, after reading Battles post I watched party's little video.
    It shows a peaceful t party rally being disrupted by a leftist loser.
    Pardy your video proves just the opposite of this threads intent. It was the leftist who was inciting violence.
    Lo and behold it also featured an Hispanic immigrant as a speaker that the left lid was disrupting.
    So the t party has Hispanic speakers and the leftist racists shout them down.
    Do we have epic fail of the year award here. Pardy wins.

    Personally I would have made a citizens arrest on that guy and cuffed him with a garbage can.
     
  13. Gatewood

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    Oh absolutely! The problem there is that he BELIEVES even though he has to know that he's getting (mostly) deliberately slanted leftwing opinions rather than non-partisan news by way of bigoted value-judgement inserted on the fly by the pundit or anchorperson or journalist. All of which caters to preconceived leftwing prejudices regarding the subject matter under discussion and so intellectually speaking it becomes the equivalent of a group-grope ideological circle jerk automatically reinforcing all leftwing bigotry. Non critical intellects then sup mightily of that propaganda Kool-aid and pronounce the results to be 'facts' etched in stone. No actual critical value thinking involved.
     
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    A violent extremist demanding that we target violent extremism. How droll.
     
  15. EggKiller

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    Perhaps it's a cry for attention?
     
  16. Gatewood

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    Face it Pardy, you attempted a propaganda posting that blew up in your face in no time at all. Sometimes that happens. Considering that in the Internet Age mostly any set of wild assertions along the lines you tried -- and failed -- to present as unassailable facts (rather than the political propaganda bullet points they really were) can almost instantly be debunked in a well documented and factual manner point-by-point-by-point if interested posters care to invest any real time and effort in the game.

    But then, even if posters don't care to make that sort of effort they can generally break apart such intellectually puerile linkages between separate issues by using logic alone. Nowadays your 'facts' actually have to be factual. Times, they have changed.
     
  17. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, you're right. The West Point cadet knews nothing about West Point, and the social scientist knows nothing about social science. They're just liars because they don't suit an agenda. Meanwhile, I'll keep posting reliable facts from all kinds of sources. Truth is not propaganda.

    Actually, I only briefly mentioned the Tea Party in the OP. Then, the Tea Partiers jumped in and started to bully. While the Tea Party is extreme, this thread was supposed to be about all right-wing extremist groups and how they are dangerous and should not be funded.

    When extremism is ignored, there is bloodshed.

    Here's another article (there are tons of them) linking right-wing extremism to militias and violence, and the Tea Party to right-wing extremism. Since my paraphrasing has upset a few members, I'll just paste it directly:

    ^ That is why the IRS should target "patriots" -- because people who promote violent revolution are not patriots at all, and they should not get tax exemptions to help them promote violence or treason.
     
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    "Social science" hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahgahahahahahahahahahahs ha.
     
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    Can we have a source for this cut and paste article?

     
  20. Gatewood

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    Yeah because we saw what happened with the VIOLENT tendency OWS protesters when they began raping and murdering and attempting to blow up bridges and so forth and the Dem Party's response essentially amounted to, "Aww isn't that sweet? Listen to the melodious sounds of light-hearted tykes at play."
     
  21. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The title is a link.

    1) If it's "propaganda" when I mention right-wing extremism, what is randomly mentioning left-wing extremism?
    2) Does the federal government give the OWS movement tax-exempt status?
     
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    1: It's called a balance of perspective as apparently the average leftwinger thinks that things flow in only one direction as far as extremism is concerned. So it helps to offer them up a more complete picture of reality so that they have the opportunity to adjust their thinking . . . not that any of them ever seem to do that. Still it never hurts to try and help them grasp reality.

    2: Oh no doubt they would have gotten around to doing something like that or the underhanded equivalent eventually . . . especially if the OWS movement would have done what Soros intended in the first place, generate artificial issues that Barack Obama could then use as a ram rod for winning the 2012 election. Alas however, the artificially created and maintained OWS movement eventually blew up in Obama's face. On the other hand since the mainstream media remained in the tank for Obama and since the far more popular Bill Clinton went to the wall to campaign for Obama around the nation and since Obama got copious quantities of great press for essentially doing nothing at all during the Hurricane Sandy event it turned out that Obama didn't need a successful OWS movement after all -- whew! What a relief!
     
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    Still no evidence that "libbies" have called for armed rebellion?

    The video shows a guy peacefully and lawfully recording a public event, along with many other event-goers, and then getting assaulted by Tea Party members. Interestingly, the whole time they were assaulting him, they were telling him that he wasn't allowed to be on public property. Stalinism.

    What is more interesting is that the start of the video shows him peacefully and quietly recording his video. There were others recording a video, but I guess they were Tea Partiers because they weren't assaulted.

    Here is the video again:
    [video=youtube;_6mCTU4NpRQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6mCTU4NpRQ[/video]

    So, why would you have "cuffed him with a garbage can"? Maybe you can tell me which law he broke to warrant a citizen's arrest? Stalin would be so cozy there.

    Here's more peaceful Stalinism in a Tea Party rally:
    [video=youtube_share;LsqPu9uGahU]http://youtu.be/LsqPu9uGahU?t=9s[/video]

    There are a few people in that video who are being aggressive, and it's certainly not the kid.

    Please tell me who these bombers are, what they bombed and how Obama knows them.
     
  24. Sanskrit

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    It's plain you're pure trolling now.

    As far as the other younger dickhead baiting TPers for a youtube vid? Go anywhere in the country and start leering and laughing in people's faces at any kind of gathering, church social, union meeting, PTA, obviously mugging for the camera and mocking them, get back to us on what happens to you... especially at the union meeting.

    And the takeaway is those two vids are the -best- you can do to claim any TP violence? Two leftist dicks riling people up? Stick a fork in this thread.
     
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    "moderation in the face of tyranny is no virtue and extremism in defense of liberty is no vice". (sorry, I forget the author. Tom Paine maybe?)
     

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