The Peace Process is dead, yet to be buried... Flame attest to that and wrote the following very interesting take on this situation... April 15, 2014 http://wec.bulldogreporter.com/t/20572197/110750335/4864301/2010/ http://wec.bulldogreporter.com/t/20572197/110750335/4864302/2011/ http://wec.bulldogreporter.com/t/20572197/110750335/4864303/2012/ Palestinian Arabs miss another chance for statehood: Do you feel sorry for them? Dear Friend of FLAME: Last week the Arab Palestinians again said no to peace with Israel and no to a shot at statehood. Without giving Secretary of State John Kerry the courtesy of advance notice, the Palestinian Authority (PA) effectively dropped out of peace negotiations with Israel when Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas announced that "Palestine" would be seeking membership in 15 U.N. organizations. The Palestinians had agreed not to seek additional U.N. recognition as long as peace negotiations were active. However, the PA has refused to negotiate seriously since last November, so Abbas' move came as no huge surprise. Naturally, Abbas is blaming the Israelis, who, with no negotiating partner in sight, decided to postpone the last release of Palestinian prisoners unless the Palestinians agreed to extend peace talks past March. The PA refused that, too. Of course Kerry's peace negotiations were a charade from the beginning for a host of reasons. First, the Palestinians are clearly not ready to give up their struggle to defeat Israel and reclaim all the territory granted to and won by Israel since 1948. This is evidenced by the Palestinians' steadfast refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state and by their desperate insistence on the so-called "right" of some five million descendants of Arab refugees to "return" to Israel. Of course, most of these "refugees" have never set foot in Israel. Second, kindly phrased, the Palestinians are politically bankrupt. Not only is the 79-year-old Abbas not even a duly elected leader (he is serving his tenth year of a four-year term), but his ruling Fatah party is in total disarray, characterized by constant infighting, no clear mandate by the people and no successor or even a methodical way to choose one. Dare we even mention that Abbas has no control whatsoever over several million Gazan Palestinians, who are ruled by Hamas, the terrorist group whose primary mission is to destroy Israel? This week's FLAME Hotline article, written by the venerable former Commentary editor Norman Podhoretz, expresses what so many of us feel about the Palestinians but are hesitant to articulate. Like the boy who declares that the emperor has no clothes, Podhoretz declares that the Palestinians are completely unworthy of the world's sympathy. Please review this outspoken, surprisingly uplifting article and pass it to your friends and colleagues. Help us inform U.S. citizens about the utter folly of Mr. Kerry's attempts to force Israel into peace talks with the dysfunctional Palestinian Authority, which has virtually no credibility even among its own people. Above all, when the Arab Palestinians actually go to the U.N. for membership in some 15 affiliated organizations, urge your congressional representatives to stand firm: No Palestinian state without negotiations with Israel, and no U.S. funding for U.N bodies that try to circumvent a negotiated peace by recognizing "Palestine" absent an agreement with Israel. Thanks for your support of FLAME and of Israel! Best regards and Chag Sameach for Passover, Jim Sinkinson Vice President, Facts and Logic About the Middle East (FLAME) P.S. Did you see last week that Iran's despotic ruler Ayatollah Khamenei again clarified that Iran would never abandon its nuclear capabilities nor would it negotiate its military options? 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Now more than ever we need your help to ensure that Israel gets the support it needs---from the U.S. Congress, from President Obama, and from the American people. Pity the Palestinians? Count Me Out Thousands of Arabs are dying in Syria and South Sudan. Where's the outrage on behalf of those truly suffering? By Norman Podhoretz, Wall Street Journal, April 9, 2014 Provoked by the predictable collapse of the farcical negotiations forced by Secretary of State John Kerry on the Palestinians and the Israelis, I wish to make a confession: I have no sympathynonefor the Palestinians. Furthermore, I do not believe they deserve any. This, of course, puts me at daggers drawn with the enlightened opinion that goes forth from the familiar triumvirate of the universities, the mainstream media and the entertainment industry. For everyone in that world is so busy weeping over the allegedly incomparable sufferings of the Palestinians that hardly a tear is left for the tribulations of other peoples. And so all-consuming is the universal rage over the supposedly monumental injustice that has been done to the Palestinians that virtually no indignation is available for any other claimant to unwarranted mistreatment. In my unenlightened opinion, this picture of the Palestinian plight is nothing short of grotesquely disproportionate. Let me leave aside the Palestinians who live in Israel as Israeli citizens and who enjoy the same political rights as Israeli Jews (which is far more than can be said of Palestinians who live in any Arab country), and let me concentrate on those living under Israeli occupation on the West Bank. Well, to judge by the most significant measure and applying it only to two instances of what is going on at this very moment: In Syria, untold thousands of fellow Arabs are starving, while according to the United Nations official on the scene in South Sudan, 3.7 million people, amounting to one-third of the population, are now facing imminent death by starvation. And the Palestinians? True, when they wish to go from the West Bank into Israel proper, they are forced to stop at checkpoints and subjected to searches for suicide vests or other weapons in the terrorist arsenal. Once, when she was secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice bemoaned the great inconvenience and humiliation inflicted by such things on the poor Palestinians. Yet she had nothing to say about Palestinians dying of starvation on the West Bank, for the simple reason that there were none to be found. Nor did anyone starve to death in Gaza when it too was under Israeli occupation. And despite propaganda to the contrary, neither is anyone facing the same fate in Gaza today because of the blockade the Israelis have set up to prevent clandestine shipments of arms intended for use against them. Speaking of Gaza, it can serve as a case study of the extent to which the plight of the Palestinians has been self-inflicted. Thus when every last Israeli was pulled out of Gaza in 2005, some well-wishers expected that the Palestinians, now in complete control, would dedicate themselves to turning it into a free and prosperous country. Instead, they turned it into a haven for terrorism and a base for firing rockets into Israel. Meanwhile little or nothing of the billions in aid being poured into Gazasome of it from wealthy American Jewish donorswent to improving the living conditions of the general populace. Which did not prevent a majority of those ordinary Palestinians from supporting Hamas, under whose leadership this order of priorities was more faithfully followed than it was under Fatah, its slightly less militant rival. As for the monumental injustice supposedly done to the Palestinians, it consists largely of losing territory in the war they themselves provoked in 1967, and the refusal of their demand that every inch of it be returned to them by the Israeli victors in that war. Such demands have always been known and universally denounced as revanchism or irredentism, most recently over the Russian seizure of Crimea. But where Israel is concerned, everything goes topsy-turvy, so that Palestinian irredentism is universally supported. The accompanying and equally great injustice allegedly suffered by the Palestinians is that they have been denied a state of their own. But this hardly qualifies as unique, given that dozens of other ethnic groupsthe Kurds being the most prominentare in the same boat. In any event, this "injustice" is also self-inflicted, since three times in the past 15 years the Palestinians have refused offers of a state on most of the territory taken by Israel in 1967 and with Jerusalem as its capital. They have justified these refusals by one pretext or another, but as anyone willing to look can see, what they truly want is not a state of their own living side by side with Israel but a state that replaces Israel altogether. With this we come to the main reason I believe that the Palestinians do not deserve any sympathy, let alone the astonishing degree of it they do receive (and not least from many of my fellow Jews). It is that ever since the day of Israel's birth in 1948, they have never ceased declaring that their goal is to wipe it off the map. In all other contexts, this would be called by its rightful name of genocide and condemned by all decent people. Yethere we go topsy-turvy againfor any and every step Israel takes to defend itself against so shamelessly evil an intent, it is the Israelis who are obsessively condemned at the U.N. and by the increasingly strident propagators of what calls itself "anti-Zionism" but is also increasingly indistinguishable from anti-Semitism. Nor, alas, is it only the leaders of the Palestinians who harbor this evil intent. As revealed by poll after poll, as well as by the elections that led the way for Hamas to take power in Gaza, a decisive majority of the Palestinian people does so as well. No doubt this is the fruit of relentless indoctrination from above, but the damage has been done, and the end result is what it is. Indeed, the best that can be said of both Palestinian leaders and led is that many of them no longer imagineas did Gamal Abdel Nasser, the former president of Egyptthat they have the power to drive the Jews of Israel into the sea. Therefore they are now willing to give up pursuing the goal of genocide and to settle for the more modest objective of politicidethat is, to get rid of the Jewish state by transforming it, through various "peaceful" means like the "right of return," into a state with a Palestinian majority. I for one pray that a day will come when the Palestinians finally let go of the evil intent toward Israel that keeps me from having any sympathy for them, and that they will make their own inner peace with the existence of a Jewish state in their immediate neighborhood. But until that day arrives, the "peace process" will go on being as futile as it has been so many times before and as it has just proved once again to be. Another thing that never changes: When John Kerry testified on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, it was the Israelis he blamed for this latest diplomatic fiasco.
What really ticks me off -as a NON-JEW is the glib anti-Semitism ( which they call anti-Zionism) of the left side of the US left. Example: Somebody on Palestinian side of line launches a series of missiles into Israel-pretty much willy-nilly. If it hits Israeli men, women, or children, our "progressive" poobahs shrug, and bring up a prepared litany of charges against Israel-in the name of "relative morality". If the Israelis retaliate, our putrid poobahs utter shrill cries of alarm and inchoate rage. Bah ! A pox upon our poobahs ! Oh. Almost forgot: Chag Sameach to any of our friends who may be observing Passover today.
And what really ticks me off is the profound ignorance some non-Jews display when the Israel-Palestine situation is brought up. Then again when your media routinely report on nothing but the Israeli side it's hardly surprising really.
Arafat pulled the same stunt on Clinton at Camp David. Sharon gave Arafat everything he asked for but in the end the deal could not be sealed. Palestine does not want peace with Israel. They want Israel gone.
There never was a chance for peace, as long as Islam exists, there will never be peace. Muslims hate the Jews and will never give peace a chance.
hopefully Israel will annex all land up to the Seperation Barrier, and pull back all troops and settlers east of the barrier and call it a day.
Imagine the Guardian reporting on Poland and the Concentration Camps as an Imaginary historical act and non factual!
There never was a peace process. The Paleos don't want any peace but the peace of Auschwitz. They don't negotiate in good faith, nor do they fight very well.
Jesus (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Christ! American Jews are the mothers and fathers of modern-day Progressivism. Wake up!
Well nonsense to you... Did you at least read the content of the link you submitted before posting it? Of course not... for if you did, it might have revealed that the word <nonsense> you have written, was in actuality your part of the retort.
