Ohio teacher fired over comment on black president

If true it was a really mean thing to say. A teacher should encourage his students to aspire but too many of them are vindictive wet blankets.

 

I'm of the opinion that all Americans are taught to have far too much respect for our political process (which by the way isn't a democracy and is only in name a Republic while actually being an oligarchy). We are not taught to properly question authority no matter what color or gender those in power happen to be, so while we might have completely different views on other things, I am also against having political leaders that are above question. However, I have had no problem criticizing and questioning Obama constantly. I say outright he's a war criminal and a treasonous destroyer of our rights. Can't stand the man. His race doesn't stop me from thinking, feeling, and saying the same loathing for him as for Bush, if not more, because Obama was supposed to be the 'change' president. So he fooled more people.

 

Good Gods NO! That would Destroy my favored Candidate!

Accountability is essential for success!

The ability to be Criticized is Essential to be TRUSTED!

The absolute last thing I want for a truly good American Leader is for that person to be "Gifted" with Obama-Like Sainthood.


No engineer can make a successful design without a group of peers willing to review that design BEFORE construction for flaws and possible improvements. Peer review is the most useful tool in your entire toolbox!


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I don't see the hate. Had it instead been a young boy name Barack, he might of said we don't need another President named Barack. It isnt hatred of people name Barack. Probably says more about his opinion of the policies of Obama.

 

I have to give credit for consistency. This teacher does not seem like someone who deserves your thought-out and nuanced defense, however. I think he's probably just a bigot.

 

The Fairness and Justice we give to the most vile of our criminals, also sets the standard by which the best of us receives JUSTICE.

I think Eric Holder is a far worse problem for America than even the disaster of Obama.

I do NOT KNOW what the teacher is...

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I am so near to being 100% in agreement with you that it's spooky. My only caveat being that we are taught not to question the leadership and policies of our own political side, but conversely are conditioned to believe that the political opposition is almost invariably wrong about pretty nearly everything.

But things seem to be looking up for the future as latest polling data indicates that more of college age youth are consistently deciding to be political independents rather than give their loyalty to one or the other party. So it stands to reason that they are more likely to be critical or suspicious of all politicians in general; but perhaps consider giving the ones that seem to base their decisions on cold hard logic the benefit of a doubt. That would be nice . . .

 

We'll, if that were true, his lack of common sense with his choice of words got him in trouble. In which case, who needs a teacher without common sense?

 

If that man's THINKING wasn't poisoned with the politically and culturally motivated antipathy too often directed at President Obama, he might have found a more creative and professional way to respond to that child.

I'd say his sense of privilege got him in trouble (thinks he can say whatever, whenever with with little to zero consequences).

 

So, if this:

is true, how is it the man deserves to have his life destroyed?

He might need some further educational training in how to present ideas to students in a constructive manner.

Surely is a teachers duty to answer students questions about the fitness and success of the standing president.

Surely he has the right to disagree with, and even condemn the actions of our public officials.

If the above is accurate representation, he gave the student his opinion, nothing more.



It certainly paints a much different picture than the OPs title description, or OP Body description.

I am not point the faulting at the OP, though it might be, because I KNOW how the MSM loves to twist these things into something "Racist" when it was not.

I do think a whole bunch of posters here on PF condemned the man out of turn, and on the always questionable testimony of the Left.


I don't think anyone on PF knows enough to form a valid opinion on the teacher or what actions should have been taken.

I think anyone interested in political debate should question the wisdom of allowing anyone's career to be destroyed because of voicing a political opinion.

After, any of U.S. on PF could be NEXT!

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of course if you're a minority and you outwardly discriminate and show prejudice against white people
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/16/sotomayor.firefighters/
you can actually be nominated to the supreme court. so not only is your job secured if you're racist towards whites in obama's america, but you are also up for a promotion.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30946676/...iscrimination-case-likely-issue/#.U1MPL_ldXP8

 

To all the conservatives saying this teacher didn't deserve to be fired.......

He told the student that he would not be president because of his race. This teacher is clearly a racist peace of garbage who considers race to be the sole reason Obama has any flaws. I can think it many things Obama has done wrong. None of them have to do because he's black. and most of them he shares with white presidents.

 

First, those who are defending the teacher are not necessarily conservative.

Second, you state what he said to the student. You cannot know that. What you know is Race Card Politics Media Hear-Say.

I sure hope you never pull jury duty.

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What does he mean "another" one? We don't even have a black president now. According to the Zimmerman rule, Obama is just another white guy.

 

I am not going to comment upon the presumptions evident in your stated view above, but I am going to ask you to modify your signature line.

It is a requirement of decency that if you choose to quote someone - you must do so accurately. It is debatable whether the Warden of the Cinque Ports, and First Lord of the Admiralty ever expressed those sentiments, but if he did, what he is alleged to have said is -

"If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart. If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no head."

It is as probable that Georges Clemenceau (to whom it is also attributed) said that. However, my point being that Churchill who held a post in the Liberal Party (a British semi-Conservative political party under Lord Asquith) would never have used the term 'liberal' in that context. Be so kind as to alter it, or omit the attribution - there's a good fellow!

 

my signature doesnt need alteration due to the fact that nobody knows the actual quote and the version in my signature sums up what he was trying to say anyways.

 

People have to stop being insensitive idiots as "Americans". We are a multicultural society; how we say what we say matters... whether we like it or not.

And certainly, as an agent of the State (Ohio, in this case), he should have kept his (personal) politically-biased opinion to himself. People don't send their kids to school to be politically/socially indoctrinated in that manner.

Why is what the teacher said so problematic? Well, Dr. Tyson explains it very well here.

 

You poor dear. Obama will be living in your head rent free for many years to come, eh?
Actually, Obama has been very beneficial for the country.
The right-wing racists and bigots have truly outed themselves since 2008, and no amount of future denials can wipe away the disgusting record of their racist-inspired hysterics that have repelled decent Americans and turned the repubs into a party of stormfront lunatic fringe types with nothing to offer the country but hate, paranoia, selfishness and intolerance.

 

In which case why was he making a reference to Obama's skin colour if not to make a racist point? "We don't need another black commander in chief". He got fired for a good reason. I hope he stays fired.

 

maybe it was a comment made about how people voted based just on his skin color and not his shoddy politics.

 

Possibly. However that would also have been inappropriate. He isn't a teacher in order to voice his opinion but to teach a curriculum.

 

As my sons 17yo son says, you blame him for slavery (even though he is from convict blood), then he wants his damn slaves!

Similarly if you dont want your homeland to turn into the ME then you must be a racist who hates all Arabs.

But what of the Arabs, Africans, Asians that leave to join a white majority, are they too racists for preferring to live near whites?

Anti-white racist bigoted haters should not be tolerated, those that support white genocide should face the full arm of the law.

 

maybe its about time some of it went in the opposite direction
[video=youtube;PJFC1qFCgyA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJFC1qFCgyA[/video]
[video=youtube;SAYlQhhocMw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAYlQhhocMw[/video]
[video=youtube;X0FFEEJUeHk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0FFEEJUeHk[/video]
[video=youtube;tcm0oAcEey0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcm0oAcEey0[/video]

 

it's only fascist when you disagree, AMIRITE ?! *high five*