Finally a crack in the wall and we see the light

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  1. Trinnity

    Trinnity Banned

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    Well, I never left. I just have my own forum and it's pretty busy..........keeps me busy too. I stop in here when I have time.

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    I've already written that antisemitism, constant "fight" against jews and Israel, destroys brains. Here we see the last stage. Actually it is already not human being.
     
  3. moon

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    It's an aspect of the OP which is being discussed. Take this section of the OP;

    How do the neo-Zionists get away with murdering sixty more people and announcing their aim to steal more of Palestine right under the nose of the US Secretary of State ? Anybody would think that this scale of murder and theft is actually legal. Of course, it isn't. Kerry is a tosser and many in his party are AIPAC drones. Thus the debate centres on the one factor which can kick the asses of Kerry, neo-Zionist fascists and AIPAC- international law.

    Why does the mere mention of it make so many Israel fan-boys uncomfortable ?
     
  4. snakestretcher

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    Well, if the Occupying Power (Israel), was bent on expanding into your territory, stealing your land, beating and killing your elderly folk, evicting them from the homes and land they have lived in for generations, why would the Palestinians be 'keen' on that? It seems your education on the situation is sorely in need of an upgrade.
     
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    You do know-actually you probably don't-that Netanyahu is on record bragging how he purposely derailed the Oslo peace process? And you're complaining that the Palestinians don't want peace?
     
  6. Gilos

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    The houses are in an area Israel already annexed decades ago and the dead are mostly terrorists or terror assistants that got involved in a forbidden activity the Palestinians signed they would stop. so its not that hard to understand the Israeli side of the story.
     
  7. moon

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    I'm not ' anti-Israeli ' per se, I'm anti-Zionist. I'm not ' anti-American ' , I'm anti American moron.

    So your post is insulting as well as being incorrect. Remove it or apologise for it.
     
  8. Gilos

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    We are in time of actions not words, we already had a PM that was like a hero to the settelrs yet was the first to evacuate them from Gaza. Abu Mazen can't even sign on seize of hostility with Israel so what good is he or his PLO party ?
     
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    Ok, how about if Moon, as I frequently do, openly stated that it's the policies of the Israeli government which inspire this hatred? Or would you still say that, because they happen to be Jewish, that must by extension translate into anti-Semitism?
     
  10. moon

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    No Israeli ' annexations ' are legal. Nor is the assassination of Palestinians in their own country. The neo-Zionists are ethnic-cleansers with a penchant for racist murders. Understanding ' their side of the story ' is a job for criminal psychologists.
     
  11. Gilos

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    No, you are opposing what was recognized as right to the Jewish ppl in 1947, you "only" oppose what about 90% of the Jews living in Israel think yet you hide it under opposing the "radicals", the radicals for you are not just the terrorists that burn fields and cars but also every one that supports a Jewish state - in whatever border at all.
     
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    Israel is the illegally occupying force. The Palestinians are quite legitimately resisting that continued occupation of, and expansion into, their territory. The onus is thus on Israel to cease its illegal activity. It's really no more complicated than that.
     
  13. Gilos

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    The ppl I refer like to use gene studies (that contredict their own point BTW..), false history and "quetes" from the elders of Zion, that sort of crap.

    The more intellgent arguments of actual Israeli policies are something else, usually my arguments are with ppl that only see the Palestinian side or make up things to shock ppl into action.
     
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    It is because you forgot to mention that there is no alternative to the war condition aside DISMANTLE Israel as a Jewish state, they will never accept it as such which really makes any demands for retreat - a surrender. the only way to secure it it recognize Israel for what it is - but nooo....., they can't because of a dictionary issue.....right.......
     
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    They are perhaps not legal today, killing terrorists anywhere around the planet is a great boon to society - and we do it for free, a gift to Humanity. I just offerd some assistance to grasp why some countries support Israel since you couldnt understand it. some ppl disagree with you that's all.
     
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    Israel's 'supporters' are becoming fewer as each year passes. Can you think why that might be-or are her detractors all anti-Semites?
     
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    Support comes and goes, we had less and more before - so did the Palestinians, lot's of good it gave us when ppl blew apart every day, I dont miss those days.
     
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    Your false claim was that I was ' anti-Israeli '. Many Israelis disagree with your own, brutal, slant on Zionist illegalities and they have my unstinting support. ' Peace Now ' is a magnificent Israeli organisation as is B'Tselem. Also, 25% of Israelis are not jewish and they have my support too, along with that of the percentage of Israeli and foreign jews who reject the stench of neo-Zionism.
    Your claim is feeble. Supporting decent Israelis- a minority, granted - is not ' anti-Israeli '.
     
  19. Gilos

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    Actually we made the same statements, I gave a rough % of the pop, I find your "blind" support to the 25% non-Jewish citizens - racist, to your information many Druze volenteer to the army and serve in the WB among other places,

    Also, my views are nothing like "neo-zionist" settler views.
     
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    Ah yes, but 'you would say that', and 'we know what you really mean...':roll:
     
  21. moon

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    Neo-Zionists are entrenched in the illusion that their deeds are justifiable and legal. It's the mindset of the criminally insane.
     
  22. Gilos

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    He means what he writes, you'll have me searching between his lines to find tolerance......., Im too old for that crap.

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    Dramatic headlines wont help you, offer peace- get peace, you get what you give.
     
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    I also mean what I write, but please feel free to imagine some arcane coding in my words.
     
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    name calling won't help you.
     
  25. moon

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    It isn't ' name-calling ', it's a diagnosis.
     

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