Cliven Bundy's "ancestral rights" to the grazing land dates all the way back to...

Fox has put their "credibility" on the line in supporting Bundy. Ergo, they will NEVER do a negative story about him.

Have to remember, it's the same network that did endless stories about arms smuggler Leland Yee....

but has arms smuggler Oliver North on as an "honored guest".

 

What about Bundy making threats before BLM even showed up?

 

Why yes, as a matter of fact. You were forced to do a little reading of what has already been said: if Bundy's family did not begin running cattle in that area until 1954-as was said-he could hardly have 60 years of unpaid arrears-BUT- somebody's mistake does not affect the overall accuracy of what has been said, and is sure as hell not a big " A-ha ! " moment.

One more time,let's go sourcing: http://americablog.com/2014/04/cliven-bundy-seditious-liar-patriot.html

 

Spoken Yesterday - Video Here

I think that is the big difference between Liberals (Authoritarian Laws / Government) and TEA Party (People / Freedom and Liberty).

Bundy is not a great example. But, I would rather side with him than the thug behavior of the Federal Government and their senseless authoritarian laws.

 

Surfer,

You would rather side with a lieing deadbeat who doesnt want to pay his taxes on land he had no right to. Yet you rail against the people you see as freeloaders.. So again tell me how this does not reek ?? This has nothing to do with Harry Reid. I know you are trying to some how intangle him in this but there is no basis for the connection.

 

Threats do not mean anything. During the 20 plus years that the BLM was harassing him, he never raised a hand against them. But the BLM responded by having snipers target the family. I can understand the necessity for the BLM to protect the operation, but the show of force the put on was excessive. Additionally, the operation exceeded the authority given to them by the court orders. The BLM created the situation at the Bundy Ranch. No one else.

 

You are absolutely right. Some ones mistake does not effect the overall accuracy. Unless of course, that mistake was made as a counter point to someone else's fact. In this case, CourtJester, true to the name, was responding to my statement that the BLM had lied about the amount that they claimed Bundy owed. So, the accuracy of the statement that I made remains unchanged. The BLM lied about the amount Bundy owed. I am glad you see things my way.

The key point here is that Bundy paid grazing fees until 1993.

 

And has not paid them since. Plus he is order to pay 200 a day as long as the cattle are there hence the million or so!

 

I would side with a deadbeat rancher over an authoritarian Federal government that lies and clearly is over taxing/fining in ridiculous ways. I stand for We the People.... even when they are not the best of people.

 

With the exception of: Homosexuals, Atheists & of course....Liberals.

 

"Census records show that Cliven Bundy's paternal great-grandfather, Illinois native Abraham Bundy, lived in Littlefield Village in Mohave County, Ariz., as early as 1900. Abraham Bundy was credited in 1916 with establishment in Mohave County of Bundyville, otherwise known as Mt. Trumbull, according to the Arizona Strip on the Northern Arizona University website."

http://www.8newsnow.com/story/253021...family-history

Abraham Bundy (born 1859) had five children of whom Roy Bundy was Cliven's grandfather. Abraham Bundy, a Mormon pioneer, helped establish the Mount Trumball community, a settlement also known as Bundyville, in a remote corner of Arizona just north of the Grand Canyon on the Shivwits Plateau. Abraham, and his five sons, including Roy Bundy, filed homestead claims under the Stock-Raising Homestead Act (1916).

The Taylor Grazing Act of 1934 was imposed upon the Bundy family, nullifying their previous homestead claims under the Stock-Raising Homestead Act of 1916). The Bundy family then moved to Bunkerville, Nevada, to basically start all over again.

http://blogwest.org/2014/04/21/under...-cliven-bundy/
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/253021...family-history http://records.ancestry.com/abraham_...x?pid=18461107

 

If this has nothing to do with Harry Reid? Then why is the scumbag inserting himself? Did you watch the video? Did you see his previous interview?

It has everything to do with Harry Reid as this point... but nothing to do with people, because damn it... we are a nation of laws! How out of touch and authoritarian is that statement?

 

Because this is happening in his State. DUH!

I know your type ALWAYS sees conspiracy in EVERYTHING. But come on HB. Common sense here buddy.

 

Weird? I support Gay Marriage / Adoption and people's right to worship or not.... However, 99% of Liberals give the rest a bad name.

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... and he is making insane authoritarian statements as he represents the U.S. Federal Government and because he hand picked his guy to be the head of BLM.

 

And you also call yourself a Libertarian. Yet you gladly voted for Romney. LOL, WTF?

 

I read but have not ever been inclined to post.

I found this thread, however, and thought I'd post this information that I came across.

"Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother, Christena Jensen, was born in Nevada in 1901. One genealogical researcher says records indicate Jensen helped settle Bunkerville some years later."
This is INACCURATE: (they even spelled her name wrong): Clive's maternal grandmother's name is Abigail Christina ABBOTT Jenson born 22 JAN 1891 Bunkerville, Clark Co., NV
"Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt."
Raoul Leavitt was a decedent of Dudley Leavitt, Clive's great great grandfather. Clive's great grandmother Mary Jane Leavitt's father was Dudley Leavitt who is Cliven Bundy's great great grandfather, he married a woman from Utah, Mary Huntsman in 1853, and eventually (probably 1877 as Clive has been saying) they settled in Bunkerville NV until Dudley died there in 1908.
Cliven Bundy inherited his ancestral rights that has been handed down through five generations in a direct line with the first generation being his great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt on his mothers side, who came from Salt Lake City Utah to settle in Bunkerville, NV sometime between 1853 when he married his wife Mary Huntsman to when he died in 1908 in Bunkerville (Cliven Bundy has claimed it was in 1877).
Cliven inherited his ancestral land rights from these ancestors in this order: Cliven's mother Margaret Bodel JENSON-Bundy - Cliven's grandmother, Margaret's mother, Abigail Christina ABBOTT-Jenson - Cliven's great grandmother, Mary Jane LEAVITT-Abbott. Abigail "Christina" Abbot-Jenson's mother, Cliven's great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt, Mary Jane Leavitt-Abbott's father.

The source given was Rootsweb and it checks out there. -- http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=dowfam3&id=I549063

 

I don't call myself a Libertarian. I am a Libertarian. However, this was the first election in a very long time where I saw the choice for Democrat so entirely dangerous for the nation that I felt compelled to vote for the "lesser evil". Barack Obama is so entirely without experience in business, international affairs, and the economy along with his spending and Government Healthcare plans that the destruction he and his ilk are bringing to my country will be felt for decades to come. I am sorry you can't understand that, but hey... your a lockstep liberal even though you try that "independent" claim that no one believes.

So let's admit you were wrong about me regarding gay rights and religion and move on.

 

There are 3 Bundy's listed in the 1920 census as living in Ward #2 outside of Las Vegas.....

https://goo.gl/maps/lOrZz

Looking at the map without having one depicting what the "wards" of Las Vegas were in the 1920's but these Bundy's were from Utah and were most likely Mormons like Cliven and family. The population of Nevada in 1900 was 42,335. Circumstantial yes, but worthy of further investigation.

 

From left: US Sen. Harry Reid, California Gov. Jerry Brown, Dr. Yusuo Wang (chairman/president of ENN Group), Vice President Joe Biden, and De-ling Zhou (Technology Manager for Honeywell) gather as Commissioner Steve Sisolak presents Dr. Wang with a proclamation from the Board of County Commissioners on Aug. 30.

ENN Energy Group is the Chinese Solar Company that needs a "secondary mitigation" site (Gold Butte?) to build their solar power plant.

 

No it doesnt ! The right inserted him with their conspiracy theory that was debunked. Two it is his home state. Three this Bundy guy threatened federal agents. now that the whole story has come out many people look like a fool defending this loser.

 

The narrative you believe.

A $15 dollar donation to PF says this whole thing just fades away and no one goes to jail. I bet Harry's already puckering up and wants it to go away before the whole truth comes out. What do you say? I always pay off if I'm wrong. I bet Wally that the Republicans would get 65 House seats in the 2010 midterm and I paid when they got 63. What do you say?

 

Lol this thing is gonna fade on PF because the guy is a fraud and the people that defended him will run away, just like Fox news and Hannity.

 

I doubt that, look at all the threads from the left on this. If the people defending run away, then he's fair game for Harry and Co. I think Harry's dirty on this and am will to put up $15. The government wouldn't just back away if they were in the right, would they? The only valid reason I can think of is a politician is up to his neck in this thing and it will just be easier to find another "Secondary Mitigation" site than risk more exposure over Bundy Ranch.

 

lol...wait...are you serious? Anonymous blog? You're judging this source based off of the fact that many websites make their whois information private? The journalist's name is clearly stated at the top. This is a fairly well known news source, and he links to another news source.

 

News from an anonymous website?

If the crap they post was true, why hide their identity? Easier to avoid the process servers I imagine. Believe what ever tooth fairy stories you want. Legitimate news sites simply do not need to hide their identity.

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