Santa Barbara Killings

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  1. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    Here we go with the hysteria and political agendas. The tragic murders in Santa Barbara by Elliot Rodger has already taken on political tones. I have heard it was an attack on females but more males were killed than females. I have heard we need tighter gun laws, but some victims were killed by a knife and Rodger also used his BMW as a battering ram against some people. Some want the cops to do a better job screening kooks, but they are the first to complain about civil rights or cop brutality. I say it's a deranged individual who was fitting into our societal umbrella, but then he flipped. There is no solution to stop these senseless killings except for those who are armed who can protect themselves and stop the murderer.
     
  2. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    One reason why I don't like the news, is how they hype up a tragedy in order to get ratings and sell papers. I find this sort of thing deplorable.
     
  3. NothingSacred

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    That's why News shouldn't be a for profit business. that's why some bland, unentertaining, ugly news anchor should just read the news in a monotone with no advertising or spin on it.
     
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    Neither side ever misses an opportunity to make a tragedy into a political issue.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Preventing murders from getting guns would be even better.
     
  6. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    So how would you prevent the police from having firearms?
     
  7. Brewskier

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    How about knives? Several of the victims were stabbed to death. Big surprise you aren't concerned about those.
     
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    Strange that the underlined part is the only conclusion you can reach based upon the bolded part. I see a world in between those two worth exploring.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really. Knives aren't nearly as deadly. This tragedy is an example: the guy mowed down people with his gun while driving.
     
  10. Brewskier

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    He killed just as many with a knife as he did with a gun. This tragedy is an example.

    You're just using this story to further the left's anti-gun position. It's transparent.
     
  11. wyly

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    laws preventing
    People with serious mental issues from readily attaining guns is an issue with you?
     
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    Russ103 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If my dad was a movie director in Hollywood when I was growing up I would have a chick count that would rival a rock star.
     
  13. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    yeah its a silly comparison, I can run pretty damn quick from a knife wielder a gun not so much...
     
  14. iamkurtz

    iamkurtz Banned

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    And how do you know who the murderer is until they murder? What if they murder without a gun?
     
  15. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    you would think so but that he didn't would suggest he some serious social issues that told women "OMG run"...
     
  16. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    when they have obvious mental health issues should be a clear red flag, dont give this guy a gun....he may still kill someone but he wont be able to do it on the same scale...
     
  17. iamkurtz

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    Huh? How many levels of dead are there in your world?

    Go learn something................

    http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_hom_vic_by_wea_kni-crime-homicide-victims-weapon-knife

    Crime Statistics > Homicide > Victims by Weapon > Knife (most recent) by state
    DEFINITION: Percent of homecide victims by weapon - knife

    VIEW DATA: Totals
    Definition Source Printable version
    Bar Graph Map Correlations

    Showing latest available data.
    Rank States Amount
    # 1 Maine: 28.6 %
    # 2 Massachusetts: 26.9 %
    # 3 Wyoming: 26.7 %
    # 4 Montana: 25 %
    # 5 Kansas: 24.2 %
    # 6 Connecticut: 23.5 %
    # 7 New Mexico: 22.8 %
    # 8 South Dakota: 22.2 %
    # 9 Oklahoma: 22.1 %
    # 10 New York: 20.8 %
    # 11 Washington: 19.4 %
    # 12 Nebraska: 19 %
    # 13 New Jersey: 18.5 %
    # 14 New Hampshire: 18.2 %
    # 15 Alaska: 17.6 %
    # 16 Rhode Island: 17.1 %
    # 17 Minnesota: 17 %
    # 18 Idaho: 16.7 %
    # 19 Vermont: 15.4 %
    # 20 Texas: 15.3 %

    # 21 Mississippi: 15.2 %
    # 22 Colorado: 14.6 %
    # 23 Oregon: 13.6 %
    # 24 Nevada: 13.3 %
    # 25 Utah: 13.2 %
    # 26 Missouri: 13.1 %
    # 27 Hawaii: 13 %
    # 28 Maryland: 12.3 %
    # 29 Alabama: 12.2 %
    = 30 California: 11.5 %
    = 30 Georgia: 11.5 %
    = 32 Wisconsin: 11.3 %
    = 32 Tennessee: 11.3 %
    = 34 Iowa: 10.9 %
    = 34 Arkansas: 10.9 %
    # 36 South Carolina: 10.1 %
    # 37 Delaware: 10 %
    # 38 Indiana: 9.7 %
    # 39 Michigan: 9.2 %
    # 40 Ohio: 9 %
    # 41 North Carolina: 8.8 %
    # 42 Pennsylvania: 8.7 %
    # 43 Louisiana: 8.3 %
    # 44 Kentucky: 8.2 %
    # 45 Virginia: 7.3 %
    # 46 Arizona: 7 %
    # 47 Illinois: 6.8 %
    # 48 West Virginia: 6.6 %
    # 49 North Dakota: 0 %



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    It's easy to say that on a forum where no one with a knife is chasing you.
     
  18. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    That's why he went nuts. He knew that jotting down is qualifications line by line, he should have been a chick magnet, and he couldn't accept the rejection. I saw the video he made and he seems like he was extremely self aware of why he was so angry. He had every advantage and still couldn't get a girl to like him.
     
  19. wyly

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    fbi stats say 68% of homicides are by gun, knives account for 13%....

    Of all the mass killings in the last decade how many of those gunshot victims would be alive had the perpetrator only had a knife....knives are impossible to control, guns are controllable...
     
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    wyly Well-Known Member

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    oh please!....you're clinging to the ridiculous now..
     
  21. iamkurtz

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    LOL! Come on up here to Chicago genius. Tell us how gin control has worked! LOL!

    Here's a dose of reality for you regarding knives and other forms of homicide..............

    http://hotair.com/greenroom/archive...-parts-and-blunt-objects-than-rifles-in-2011/

    PolitiFact: Yes, more people murdered with knives, body parts and blunt objects than rifles in 2011
    POSTED AT 3:41 PM ON JANUARY 18, 2013 BY KATIE PAVLICH


    This infographic is floating around Facebook.

    Photobucket

    And according to PolitiFact (and the FBI) it’s true.

    Our ruling

    The post uses data selectively, ignoring the significant role of handguns in gun violence. But the statistics it mentions are solid. FBI data backs up the Facebook post’s claim that in 2011, more people were murdered with knives, “hands or feet” or “clubs and hammers” than with any type of rifle. We rate the statement True.
    You can read the whole assessment here.
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...ok-post-says-more-people-were-murdered-knive/
     
  22. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    Turn off the boob tube and when ratings fall the advertisers will bail.

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    Yeah, we could make it against the law.
     
  23. wyly

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    how about you try read the entire thread and comprehend whats been posted...
     
  24. Just A Man

    Just A Man Well-Known Member

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    You can "see" and you can "explore" until the seas dry up but it won't stop what happened. At least my plan, which is common sense rather than a dream, could stop the criminal. An armed citizen stops a crime in our society all the time but the liberal media won't report it. The story don't fit their agenda.
     
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    How about you digest what I posted regarding your misguided dismissal of knives as a means of homicide? Comprehend that. I don't need an education from a gun grabber when I have lost a family member to beating death and a friend to a lunatic with a butcher knife. Had they have been armed with that 'evil' gun, they may have lived. Now is that relevant to this thread?
     

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