Should Corporations be able to "donate" money to politicians, campaigns, and/or parti

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  1. Private Citizen

    Private Citizen Well-Known Member

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    Why should we allow the people with the most money to make the policies of America. They make up one percent of the population. Doesn't matter any way, You vote for two people, the one that wins appoints many non elected officials. Most of the time they are the same people whether a republican or democrat. Kissinger, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Fleisher.......the list goes on. They're the real masters we serve. They work for those bankers set up in Manhattan.
     
  2. danielpalos

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    They are always welcome to come up with better solutions at lower cost.
     
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    Wow. Your a good slave. I hope you don't plan on reproducing.
     
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    Corporations, no. Only living residents in a politicians district should be able to donate to that politican, and only a limited amount (say $500 per election). No other funding should be allowed.

    But that won't stop the rampant flow of $$$ and buying of politicians because everyone needs to have a say.

    The problem is that not all politicians in DC are equal. The Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader weild exceptional power and can dictate to the rest of the Congress, and thereby implement their own personal agenda. That means a Congressman from another state can have a huge impact on my life, so its only reasonable that I can influence elections I cannot vote in.

    As long as the feds have so much power, there will be people who want to buy that power. The only solution is to return the power to the states.
     
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    I plan on having many children who will look forward to serving our corporate overlords.
     
  6. fifthofnovember

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    But a "better solution" for the general welfare won't necessarily be a "better solution" for a particular company. Bribes incentivize putting the good of a few rich folks above the good of the general public.
     
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    The problem with lobbying reform is that the corporations don't give the politicians money. Not ultimately. They want votes - the money is just a tool to that end. If you outlaw donations, they'll just move to other methods of generating those votes. Like running independent ads. You can't get rid of state-corporate collusion because it's a necessary feature in systems where power is centralized in the hands of a few - they inevitably siphon some of that power off for their own ends.

    Without severe free speech limitations the collusion will continue. Even then, I'm sure they'll find a way. It's in the interests of both parties.
     
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    Ok then serve your masters well. Nonu nonu and shuzbutt
     
  9. JPRD

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    The subject question is a discrete one, that being "Should Corporations be allowed to 'donate' money to politicians" etc. One might also ask, "Should Unions be allowed to 'donate' money to politicians", or "Should wealthy citizens be allowed to 'donate" money to politicians", or "Should citizens who hold a similar position on some issue be allowed to form a PAC or other group and donate money to politicians"?

    Is anyone here arguing that ALL campaign contributions be outlawed? Is anyone here arguing that ONLY corporate contributions be outlawed? If so, those holding such positions should be explaining what if anything they'd suggest to replace the present system. It doesn't take much thought to simply state that you're against something. It takes much greater thought to describe what you're for, why your suggested approach is better than our present system, and why your suggested approach would eliminate the influence of money in politics.
     
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    I would have less of a problem with capital in politics if there is a fixed Standard regarding the capital gains income distinction whenever the unemployment rate is above three percent.
     
  11. OregonDemocrat

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    Absolutely not. The McCutcheon ruling was absolutely awful and used no rational thought process in deciding its outcome. If money is speech, but money is not a right, than speech is no longer a right, and by equating the concept of free speech to something tangible, the Supreme Court has effectively destroyed that right. All donations by corporations and special interest groups should be outlawed, while individual donations should be capped at $5,000.
     

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