Even if the Republicans only cared about the rich [Please...], we need them!

Even if Republicans only cared about the rich [Please...],

we need them!

Even if it were true as some on the loony left say [whine], that all the Rs care about is the rich, so what?

we have seen throughout history how things go when the Rs are @ the helm, and how HORRIBLE things are when they are not

Anyone who is still a Dem after all these scandals in the O Admin probably has brain damage

• Benghazi scandal
• IRS scandal
• Eric Holder lies under oath but is still in high office [the peons can't get away with that kind of behavior, but oh well... Peons, to Dems are just peons... there to work to make THEIR lives better and nothing else]
• VA scandal

geez... pathetic

No one with any sense is still a Dem...

Come on over to our side, all you befuddled Dems... [and who is not befuddled after all we have seen in the last 6 yrs..?]



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I'm sorry why do we need the rich again? Rich people don't create jobs, demand and supplying goods/services creates jobs. Sure being rich helps speed the process up, but it's not a necessity. After all, the original businesses started that way.

 

I have no idea what your point is(???)

I guess maybe you are saying that the poor create jobs??

ummm... yeh, you might need 2 explain that...


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How abut this, you do what I asked and I'll do what you asked? I asked you, explain to me how the rich create jobs. May I hear your response?

 

Wow such a convincing rant of right wing rhetoric....not.

Welcome to PF but such tribute to the mindspeak of Rush Limbaugh and company just leaves me shaking my head.

 

It's successful business men who create jobs. They do it by growing businesses, that then hire more staff and consume more goods from suppliers. It's hard to be successful at building businesses (especially with Obama in the white house), but folks who are really good at it get rich.

If we want to find folks to do that in the future, it's a good idea to involve proven business builders. Those folks are most likely to be wealthy.





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Sure, but the question is how do the rich create jobs? The rich aren't rich by being idiots. They do so by making smart business decisions. Why would they invest their money, in something that doesn't make them a profit?

 

Greater and greater amounts of the nation's wealth is being redistributed and concentrated in the pockets of a smaller and smaller elite. Despite the forelock-tugging of the worshipful, that's not good for the nation.



There is an element of inveterate snivelers who started by pretending the president was foreign-born, madrasa-indoctrinated, and wallowed in other such loony fantasies. Those are the folks who like to imagine the twice-elected president has lied more than most and that his terms have been scandal-ridden.

They are largely Angry White Guys who have been bellywhinging since the first non-White guy president was finally elected. Of course, that's merely coincidental. So are they all, all honourable men.

Most Americans are nowhere near as silly, but the frustrated pantywaists remain flustered.

For an objective comparison to facilitate perspective,

Obama's current: approval: 44%, disapproval: 52%. Mediocre.

The Bush's numbers at this stage of his second term: 36% approval, disapproval: 57%. Worse.




Obama's just an average president, hardly




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Who here collects a paycheck from poor people. Step forward and identify yourselves.

 

Doubt anyone would. Investment ain't charity.

You grow business with win-win deals. A rich guy has to expect to get something if you want him to get involved, same as the guy on the assembly line. Hump on too many restrictive laws or requirements to do business so folks can't or are less likely to make sufficient profit and they'll stay out of the pool.

But business isn't a zero sum game. Business is creating value. There's no reason why everyone in involved can't take some of that value home with them. My getting rich doesn't stop you from doing the same.





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Define poor. And once again, how does that mean anything? It's not wealth that creates jobs, it's supply and demand.

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I agree with you, but it doesn't matter. If there was a demand for a product, there will always be a supply for the product. It doesn't matter if a person is rich or not, if they can make it happen, getting rich is just a side effect.

 

Was it a difficult question? If you can define Rich then by default you know what poor is. Have you collected paychecks from the poor? Yes or No.

 

I don't have to define rich or poor because my position is it doesn't matter, so moot point. And fine, my answer is yes.

 

There's some things you did not mention
The republicans seem to care more about party politics than they do the welfare of the country
They have vowed to obstruct any progress made in this country by the president
This is far more destructive for this country than anything you could name

The only solutions They have for anything is cut taxes even though taxes are now are almost down to 1928 level
And reduce regulations
Their propaganda praises the rich and demonize the poor
My opinion you are either rich, racist or stupid if you are a republican

I should also mention the republicans want to end all entitlement programs

 

History disagrees with you. That folks want something doesn't make it happen. We've wanted flying cars, space ships, and iPads since we saw movies like Star Wars and TV shows like Star Trek and the Jetsons.

It's not enough to just want stuff. You need someone to come up with a way to provide the solution. And someone to organize assets, convince people to participate, keep the business efficient, and direct it to greater challenges when the old ones are done. If just anyone could do that, anyone would. And they don't.

Not saying you have to be rich to make all that happen. Just saying you're more likely to find folks who are likely to succeed in that challenge among folks who've already done it. And underestimating that challenge, assuming the ones who can make it happen will do whatever you ask for the privilige of putting a factory in your backyard, is why iPads are made in China.




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A lot of business owners have had a negative net worth. And they issued paychecks.




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Wow now we are getting somewhere. So you collect your paychecks from poor people. How many employees do these poor people have?

 

We all collect paychecks from poor people. Their spending is more vital than anything rich people do.

Nobody can yet say what it is that rich people actually do that's so valuable. Something about "supervising."

 

They're brain damaged, brain dead, and proud of it. What you're forgetting is that these are not people with normal, constructive values such as what made America an epic success. Also they have a very, very selective approach to equality before the law, so they have no shame whatsoever in supporting lawless and corrupt behavior.

 

Demand for a product is meaningless if someone (business owner) is not their to provide it for them.

 

No, it's about risk-taking. Entrepreneurship is fraught with danger and hazard, and indeed most businesses fail. Having capital to do something, such as providing as service or product that people will freely exchange things of value for them, and knowing what to do and how to do it, is not an easy or automatic thing. It's light-years away from the lark you progressives seem to think it is.

And if poor people could do it, they wouldn't be poor for long. They can't.

 

You should stop commenting on political ideas since you are perfectly happy with the rich deciding matters of state.

 

1. I have never met or heard of a poor person who created a job and hired somebody.

2. There is no way that I know of to grow an economy that prevents the rich guys from getting most of the new wealth. If they don't put up the capital investments then there will be no new businesses or expansions of existing businesses. You don't have to like it, hell even I don't like it, but that's the reality of the situation.

3. Higher taxes and more regulations are a recipe for a stagnant economy. If the business climate sucks then why is anybody surprised when the economy doesn't flourish?

 

1. Many start up businesses are poor. These people often cant pay themselves any wage at all to survive initially and depend on the generosity of others.

2. True, but we can spread the wealth and have done so before. This helps provide a sustainable economy.

3. To an extent yes, but the US climate in tax and regulation terms does not sucks.

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Poor people start businesses all the time, so how about you guys admit your argument for the sucking up to the rich is wrong an move on.

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I dont expect you guys to back up anything you have to say. Especially the OP.

 

1. Steve Jobs, Larry Page, Bill Gates... a lot of entrepreneurs started with small or negative net worth.

2. Fast growth, low start-up cost models and reinvest capital into the business rather than borrowing. Not necessarily the easiest path, but if it's really important to you to exclude guys who could help — it's possible.

3. Yup.




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