You guys need to watch this interview/documentary with an 11 yr old transgender

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    It's amazing to me how people think their notion of reality is the only one.

    Deranged people think that their deranged perception is reality. What if one day we discover that the need to conform to petty social dictates is delusional?

    I think they are so adamant about this because they don't want to become the ones with the mental disorder.
     
  2. Tahuyaman

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    Really?

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    Absolutely. If a little boy honestly believes he's a little girl, something is amiss. His thought process is malfunctioning.
     
  3. Polydectes

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    How exactly do you "cure" a delusion? And if you know of a cure I will have to say you are an extremely wicked person for not sharing it sooner. There are many people suffering from schizophrenia that suffer from delusions that can't be cured. They are tortured inside their own minds and if you have a cure and kept it from them you are the one that had tortured them.

    Treatments don't cure problems they simply help people cope with them. Cures cure. There are very few cures in this world. You don't cure diabetes you treat it. The person receiving treatment still has diabetes.

    The treatment for gender dysphoria is becoming transgender. They are receiving treatment that is what it is. I am sorry you don't like that treatment. Why don't you come up with a better one?
     
  4. Tahuyaman

    Tahuyaman Well-Known Member

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    Let me get this straight. The treatment for a boy believing he is a girl is to have a sex change operation? Talk about compounding the problem!
     
  5. Polydectes

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    I take it you don't have an explanation.

    Well you can go be a normal little lemming and I will continue being a unique individual.

    I am jealous of this little kid. She is going to learn how to tell people like you that demand conformity to eat (*)(*)(*)(*), so much earlier than I did. If only I had not placed so much importance on being "normal" through my youth I could have had a much more fulfilling youth.

    Do much value on normal and you can't even explain why. That is just sad.
     
  6. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    No, surgery isn't always necessary. I have a friend, her spouse changed his gender identity to her current one. She hasn't had a bit of surgery.
     
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    But that doesn't alter the reality that a man has the mistaken idea that he is actually a woman. Denying the truth does not change the truth.

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    Really?
     
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    And when that doesn't work, then what. Beat the snot out of em?
     
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    Have we really come to a place in modern society that some actually believe their life would have been more fulfilling by denying the gender they were born with?
     
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    Yes, by people who have demonstrated competence in treating those delusions. Where the hell are they?

    Then you understand nothing of the human condition.

    Yes, thanks in no small part to people who think like you.
     
  11. Tahuyaman

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    You are certainly one twisted individual.

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    Well, a good old ***ch slap really never hurt anyone.
     
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    The people who think this little kid is lucky, well adjusted, or showing strength of character and are jealous, must be living a horrible life.
     
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    I was hoping for a different response, a manly one. But sadly, no. Senseless beatings seems to be the preference.
     
  14. Polydectes

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    I don't think that she has the mistaken idea that she is a woman. She very much understands that she is transgender and doesn't attempt to claim to be a woman. in The sense that she was born a woman which is in the sense that you mean it.

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    Really.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    People that want to stomp out her spirit because they don't like it, or get it, have it way worse.
     
  16. Tahuyaman

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    I wish to restore his spirit.

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    You're right. He thinks he's a little girl. Eventually he will think he's a woman. I can pray that he doesn't, but.....

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    A b***h -slap isn't a beating.
     
  17. Polydectes

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    Incorrect, you wish to make him obedient to your definition of normal. That is killing her spirit.
    Yes that is the progression.
    Allow me to finish your thought.

    ...it's not going to do any good.
     
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    Ive read through this thread quite a bit to get some points of view from everyone and i find a great hypocracy in some arguements.

    One of you have said that we live in a society where there are no predetermined gender roles ( things like boys toys, or girls clothes. That is to say there is no such things, just toys and clothes.) this being true means that it shouldnt matter the personality traits anyone has be it they being a man that likes wearing skirts or little girls that prefer to play army with nerf guns rather then tea party with stuffed animals.

    If this is all true, then transgenderism is not about wanting to be able to openly practice the activities of the opposite sex, be it what you wear, how you walk, what you do in your spare time or how you are sexually. It can mean only at its roots you actually want the opposite parts of what you have.

    Now you can have surgeries to make it look like you have those parts, but lets face it, they arnt real. They are artificial. A male to female tranny, willnever be pregnant or have a period. Female to male tranny will never be able to impregnate a female. So knowinv that these things are impossible even through science, why does one wish to assume the role of a gneder that they are obviously not and never can be?

    In the liberal mindset, it is perfectly ok for a grown man to put on makeup heels and skirt and cross dress becuase its who he is. If thats the case why do we have to call him she, maam,etc... Hes not, hes just a feminite male. Hes a man in a dress.

    So what it boils down to is, why cant people accept who they are and still live their lives by their personalities? If your a burly woman or a girly man, so what. Why make everyone else buy into your lies to yourself?your gender is not decision you can just make and change your mind at will. You are who you are.
     
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    I wish this little boy didn't have to go through the torment he's going through. You on the other hand, don't care that he's going to be living a nightmare for his entire life.
     
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    First, he is not a "her". Second, a little girl growing up to be a woman is the normal progression. It's not the normal progression for a little boy to grow up believing he is going to be a woman.
     
  21. Polydectes

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    The only torment I see is generated by you. Constantly telling her she is mental. I am not doing that.

    What nightmare?
     
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    Those parents messed up that kids head. It isn't naturally to automatically identify with the opposite gender. The kid is a result of the environment it was brought up in.
     
  23. Polydectes

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    Meh, whatever gender specific nouns you prefer. She prefers to be referred to as her or she, so I am going to go with that.

    Outmay not be normal to you, but it's apparently normal to her. Since opinions are in no short supply I don't think she should really care what self conscious people on the internet believe to be normal.
     
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    Nice opinion, (not really) but much like everybody having an excitement evacuation orifice, everybody has an opinion.
     
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    So don't say you believe in freedom when you only believe in your perspective of freedom. Its a common misconception of liberals to make these grandiose claims of love and tolerance until you actually break down their real feelings.

    Once again since you have admitted its a choice how can you then turn around the pretend you can limit this new civil right you have fabricated to be only enjoyed by 2 person adult homosexuals?

    Why would heterosexuals marry the same sex under gay marriage? Can you explain that?

    LOL you can claim that all you like but thats like saying you believe in big government big taxes but claim you dont have a side. You have a side. I have a side. Let's accept that fact.
     

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