"I'm ashamed to be an American>>MOD WARNING<<<." - Sgt Bergdahl

It's called being a prisoner of war?

From your article:

Gee, sorta hard to go back to the base when you're locked in a cage, isn't it? And how do you "escape" if you're not being held captive?

Fox "news?" You must know that liberals don't take Fox seriously. And from your article:

Great source. Fox and a liar who took part in the Iran-Contra scandal. How ironic that your source is someone who was involved in trading weapons to terrorists for US hostages.

 

they didn't make it there, did they?

 

That was in his first year of captivity, then he converted to islam, and claimed to be a jihadi fighter.

of course thats all academic anyway, because he never would have been captured by the taliban if he hadnt deserted from the military, and searched to find someone who spoke english so he could meet up with the taliban.

The only reason why he ran, was cause the taliban werent nearly as receptive to him as he had fantasized.

If liberals took fox news seriously theyd be more informed, but theyre not really interested in reality, just their fantasies.

Oliver North is no different than obama providing material support and weapons to Al Queda, in Libya and Syria.
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lol, right. I can't take anyone seriously who thinks Fox is real, unbiased news.

Red herring. Oliver North and Obama are not the topic of conversation here. You take Fox seriously; you provide claims from a known liar who negotiates with terrorists, and then change the subject and talk about other people instead of addressing the irony. You're just like the other posters who can't stay on topic and have to throw out red herrings every time they have no good response. Buh bye.

 

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I think that's where the part about 'Suck it up and salute' comes into reality.
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There is NO Way I will ever be ashamed to be an American! Never.

I am, however, ashamed of the millions of people who went to the polls and elected to many of our current politicians who more deserve to be behind bars than in the halls of Congress - or the White House.

 

and how many times must you be told, this all falls under the UCMJ and NOT the Constitution........
So, you've never served, but you are a military legal specialist...JAG maybe...hhahahahahahaha
get a grip, it isn't AWOL after 5 years, it is desertion.

 

are you reading what i wrote? i think not

also, the ucmj is based on the principles in the constitution, as i said before

 

It is not unusual to find an Iraq, Afghanistan, Not At War, War veteran who feels shame.

They just haven't acted it out.

Why War ?
Someone is profiting.
Someone who understands r > g
And after a few tours or awful wounds, the vets "understand" too;
that there is no reason for these deployments that kill too many innocents and harden the lives of others.



Moi

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I've never been ashamed to be an American, but there are times I've been embarrassed to be around some Americans while overseas.

 

by your own admission, you don't know what you are talking about. No experience, and two simple little quotes does not make you an expert.
BTW, The UCMJ is a law unto itself, it does not mirror the Constitution.

 

that's just more emotional twisting of what i said

you're just showing that you have no clue what you're talking about, again

i didn't say it mirrors the constitution, i said it's based on it, which it is


The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ, 64 Stat. 109, 10 U.S.C. Chapter 47), is the foundation of military law in the United States. It was established by the United States Congress in accordance with the authority given by the United States Constitution in Article I, Section 8, which provides that "The Congress shall have Power....To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval forces."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Code_of_Military_Justice


many of of the basic premises are the same concepts

burden of proof

presumption of innocence

privilege against self incrimination

 

If a cop throws his badge and gun on the table, walks outside and gets knifed do you charge the assailant with murdering an officer. NO. He quit. Just like this unemployable meathead and his band of '***** that were in that country illegally to begin with.He was no longer a soldier. He un-volunteered.

 

lol, what a thread, what replies
a dick contest in hypocrisy

 

how is sticking up for the rule of law, justice and respect for the constitution, hypocritical?

 

one last time for you.
UCMJ is NOT civilian law. Your comparison fails.
the UCMJ is NOT Constitutional law, it is separate from civilian courts, civilian due process and civilian punishments.
If you had ever been arrested under the UCMJ, you do not get Miranda....
The only Right you have in the military process is a lawyer.
Are you aware of the contract under Military enlistment and what their obligations and your obligations are??

 

show me where i said it was, you can't because i didn't

try to make a relevant argument instead of false ones

your arguments are so easily refuted by the facts



Rights of Military Members


Sources of Rights

U.S. Constitution

Uniform Code of Military Justice

Manual for Courts-Martial

Statutes

Regulations

Executive orders


Rights of service members may be divided into three categories:

Equal Protection under the law

Due Process of law

Freedom of Expression


http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/law/rights_of_military_mbrs.pdf

 

No. He deserves to be left in their custody because of his own free will he made the decision to desert and seek out the Taliban. Don't you liberals believe in free will? Did other soldiers deserve to die looking for this sorry POS?

 

you conveniently left out this part...............

 

WWCD - What would Carter Do?

 

then be his hero and go defend him...you know everything there is to know, including procedure, right? With your extensive background, you should have no problem getting him off.....let me know ho it turns out.

 

i excerpted the points that completely refute what you said



your false assertion:

refutation of your false assertion:

where do you come up with all these looney, overly-emotional assertions?

in reality, what i know is that the more you learn, the more you realize how much you don't know

 

so, why are you holding back, get in line to be his legal representative............

 

that's ridiculous, why would i want to do that?