Protest At Russian Embassy In Kiev Gets Ugly

- Why you always add something about Jews? I understand that anti-Semitism is always a hot theme but it just pointless in current context
- Leaflet is a fake. There no evidence of any jew was registred, paid money or being discriminated by DNR. Show some proofs or it just another fake. Anybody can print some text and spread it from the name of other person.
- USA Today or other western media don't have to be officially pro-USA. Just in fact they are. RT is always was official Russian Federation media and don't hide it ever. It doesn't mean they are fascists or everything they says is a lie.
- When you so often uses words like "Nazi", "Fascist" and add to whatever you don't like you probably step by step lost its sense.

 

lol you label all of your political opponents as neo-nazi's when in actuality it is the Russian Federation which is in line with the Nazi way of thinking, those who live in glass houses...

We have the leaflets you have no evidence whatsoever that it came from anyone other than the fascist Russian backed terrorists.

RT is state run propaganda, nothing more than a Kremlin mouthpiece your assertion that USA Today is anything remotely analogous to RT is the only lie.

This coming from the person claiming that the duly elected Ukrainian government and their Prime Minister are a bunch of Nazi's.

 

- I don't label all opponents as Neo-Nazi. Did I ever called you a neo-Nazi for example? - No
- since when printed paper is an evidence? Crime need to be proven not just claimed. That is how judgment system works.
- You blind if don't see propaganda from both sides. Truth is always somewhere between.
- i don't call all government a nazi. I said Svoboda is a nazi. Others just stupid if they cooperate with them.
- Also i never said that Prime Minister is a nazi. Why you misrepresents my words? But his latesr statement about "subhuman" and "cleansing" makes me doubt.

 

You have consistently attempted to label the Ukrainian government as neo-Nazi.

It was singed by Denis Pushilin himself.

There is no equivalency between the Kremlin mouthpiece RT and the independent politically neutral USA today. Once again provide ONE SINGLE SOLITARY RT article critical of Putin, you can't because it doesn't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing exist.

Once again Svoboda is in the extreme minority despite pro-Russian propaganda.

You are in the other thread defending the assertion that the PM is a Nazi.


Furthermore; KGB Agent intentionally changed the term from "inhuman" to "subhuman":

“They lost their lives because they defended men and women, children and the elderly who found themselves in a situation facing a threat to be killed by invaders and sponsored by them inhumans. First, we will commemorate the heroes by wiping out those who killed them and then by cleaning our land from the evil”, - he said.

Those who shot down the plane are inhumane, that is an apt description. The assertion that this was a call for ethnic cleansing or labeling ethnic Russians as subhuman is blatant propaganda.

 

Face your rear:
What do you know of Russian Federation way of thinking? Nothing. Look at the symbolic, rhetoric and actions of the Maidans. Poroshenko is the same as Timoshenko. They are using deadly weapons against the Ukrainians in Ukraine. They will end badly, we all will witness this. All you judgments are based on fodder provided (sometimes deliberately not provided) by corporate owned media of USA.

 

- I only labeled Svoboda. For me 1/7 of ministry is a lot.
- About leaflet. Are you so naïve? It can be done in photoshop in 5 minutes. Or every copy of leaflet was separately signed by pen? I even can prove that someone is trying to fake the stamps and signs of DNR and Pushilin for provocation purposes. Look here
This video shows how someone copied stamp and sign from one real document of DNR and uses to create a fake. Like a piece of cake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pcRwiSyUnY
- What PM says is very similar to what Nazi says. So what about my opinion? His words is a fact.

 

... there are now an estimated 50,000 to 70,000 neo-Nazis, half of the world's total. They even have supporters in parliament.

Putzel asked a member of parliament, Nikolai Kuryanovich, to comment on the videos being passed around on the Internet.

"Russians don't want to live like slaves in their own land, which is what's happening now," Kuryanovich replied.

Putzel spoke with foreign college students who are terrified by the videos.

"The first time I watched it I was devastated, completely devastated," said Jonathan Benjamin.

"Being a black man in Moscow is dangerous," said Akili Bernard. "I'm always worried. I always watch my back. If I'm going to class, I just go straight to class. I don't walk around to places I don't know."

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=3718255&page=1#.UCDbiaA4SuI

And not only do half of all of the worlds Nazi's live in Russia but nearly half of ALL Russians citizens hate Jews:

ADL Poll Shows 44 Percent of Russians Hold Strong Anti-Semitic Views as Political and Popular Acts of Anti-Semitism Rise

"Survey on Anti-Semitism and Societal Attitudes in Russia" Issued By the Anti-Defamation League

ADL Statement About the Survey Results

Findings: Anti-Semitism

Findings: The Mood of The Russian People

Conclusion

Washington, DC, September 21, 1999…More than four in ten Russians -- 44% -- hold strong anti-Semitic views, according to a major national survey released today by Anti-Defamation League (ADL) at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. The League calls these findings "extremely troubling and potentially dangerous, especially in a climate of political and economic turmoil, and as acts of political and popular anti-Semitism increase in the Russian Federation." By comparison, ADL’s 1998 survey of Americans showed that 12% harbored strong prejudice against Jews.

http://archive.adl.org/presrele/asint_13/3469_13.html

 

A) They are only acting, new appointments will be made by the newly elected President.

B) The positions which they hold are not very influential.

Considering the composition of the Russian terrorists it is very likely that the leaflets came from them:


Pro-Russian separatists start their own anti-Semitic TV channel

The Euro-Asian Jewish Congress has posted a video produced by the armed pro-Russian separatists who, aided by Russian military specialists, seized control in Slovyansk a week ago. As reported, these militants have shown particular animosity towards journalists, many of whom have left the city. On April 17 they seized the TV tower providing a signal to Slovyansk and other cities in the Donetsk oblast: Kramatorsk, Horlivka and Makiyivka. Ukrainian channels were removed from air, with Russian propaganda channels given the frequencies.

Motley anti-Semites have a tendency of making themselves heard on April 20 [Adolf Hitler’s birthday] and this, quite literally, is what the pro-Russian militants did by starting up their own TV channel. Their presentation video can be seen here

The three activists’ boast about their imminent “victory” with this described in overly anti-Semitic mode. “Here, from Slovyansk, we are inflicting a powerful information conceptual blow to the biblical matrix … to Zionist zombie broadcasting”. They assert that a new page in history is beginning in Slovyansk and that they are “undermining the pillar of the totalitarian pyramid”. They say that they have blocked the “enemy TV channel Inter, and that people will finally be able to hear the truth.

This truth, in their rendition, is presented in a lecture by Konstantin Petrov, a Soviet and then Russian Federation General who died in 2009. EACJ calls him the leader of a Russian anti-Semitic and neo-pagan national-Stalinist sect and the political party around it – “Course of Truth and Unity”

http://khpg.org/index.php?id=1398122609

Furthermore; Pushilin himself admitted it:

n a response to a request by a Ukrainian Jewish website, Pushilin, the interim government's regional chairman, confirmed that the flyers were distributed by his organization, but denied any connection to the leaflet's content.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4510688,00.html

Big lie propaganda straight from the Kremlin.

KGB Agent intentionally changed the term from "inhuman" to "subhuman":

“They lost their lives because they defended men and women, children and the elderly who found themselves in a situation facing a threat to be killed by invaders and sponsored by them inhumans. First, we will commemorate the heroes by wiping out those who killed them and then by cleaning our land from the evil”, - he said.

 

- I'm not a fortune teller. When there will be no nazi in government i will be ok. Today they are.
- Just a word in article is a proof? Maybe for you to have a reason to hate rebels. When Pushilin said it? Where? To whom? It is not a proof. Also even this article says "..but denied any connection to the leaflet's content."
- So inhuman is ok to you? It is even not just "sub" it is "in.." which is mean "not" when used as prefix

 

Svoboda has publicly renounced anti-Semitism and centered, they are a very small minority within the Ukrainian parliament and the Ukrainian population.

But that it was distributed by HIS organization.

Inhuman is an apt description of those who shot down the aircraft:

in·hu·man
inˈ(h)yo͞omən/
adjective
adjective: inhuman

1.
lacking human qualities of compassion and mercy; cruel and barbaric.

 

Well, English is obviously not my native language so I can be wrong. But here is quote:
"They lost their lives because they defended men and women, children and the elderly who found themselves in a situation facing a threat to be killed by invaders and sponsored by them inhumans"
http://usa.mfa.gov.ua/en/press-cent...idnim-i-blizykim-zagiblih-vojiniv-u-lugansyku

There are no word this "adjective" can be applied. It is plural and it is not adjective. It is a noun. "invaders and inhumans".

 

SUBHUMAN is what was posted on the Ukrainian embassy website. There are screenshots taken of it easily found with a quick search.

I just searched 'Yats subhuman comment'. Bang ... took about 2 seconds.

 

funny, as Russia treats all its neighbor states as "sub-human" nations, waiting to be conquered and annexed into Mother Russia.

 

Typical that you cannot respond to a post in a relevant manner.

Meanwhile ...... Ukraine ........NO GAS FOR YOU!!!!!

 

Now here's the latest from our exemplars of integrity; the attackers of the Embassy in Kiev were Russian provocateurs.

 

Ukraine will still get gas even if Russia cuts off its share.

why? because the gas for the rest of Europe is also transfered through Ukraine.

hee hee hee

 

Very strange logic. Then EU won't get it. Also it will be a theft.

 

Of course they were. That's why the police did nothing but stand by. That's why the Ukrainian Foreign Minister went there and called Putin (*)(*)(*)(*)er (per RT) or a dickhead (per Washington Post). That's why a Ukrainian MP went there and threw a rock at the embassy in support of the protesters.

 

Russia isn't going to shut off all gas.

they will simply reduce the gas output by the amount scheduled for Ukraine.

the rest of Europe can share their gas with Ukraine, as they have paid for it.

 

Make sense. Then Europe need to buy more gas to fulfill needs of Ukraine. While the price for this additional amount is similar to those proposed to Ukraine i think Russia will be ok with that. No difference who paying.

 

yes, Russia will cut their flow by say 5%, and Europe will just by 5% more gas and sell it to Ukraine.

problem solved.

 

I don't think they were but it is not such an unknown occurrence

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...razy-ideologue-of-the-new-russian-empire.html

 

Yeah. Only question is who will pay for that additional 5%. And how high will be price

 

They have definitely been saying they will cut off gas giving as the reason that Ukraine would steal it. Ukraine apparently has some stockpiled so Europe should be all right for a while. Maybe Ukraine's way of forcing the EU into sanctions? Guess Russia will soon notice a big loss of money which I imagine is why you believed they would still sell it to Europe.

Edit: My mistake you are right, she is still going to supply it to Europe

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-cut-gas-supply-ukraine-072718598.html

 

Actually Gazpron said that they will not be able to get a back flow from Europe. You know Ukraine has to stop its blackmailing. They owe a great deal of money, and Russia has given them great terms but they wanted more and more and more and more. As Lavrov said they're juveniles when it comes to diplomacy, but I think juvenile delinquent would be a better term. More than likely they will do what they did the last time and tap into the European pipe lines.

Let's see what Europe will do? Will they bow down to U.S. pressure and hurt themselves, or will they stand up for their rights?