White House pursuing plan to expand immigrant rights

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By: DrJohn

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    new democrats?​


    White House pursuing plan to expand immigrant rights

    says the LA Times
    (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-immigration-20140726-story.html#page=1)


    Even as President Obama grapples with the crisis of immigrant children arriving at the Southwest border, White House officials are laying the groundwork for a large-scale expansion of immigrant rights that would come by executive action within weeks..

    Officials signaled strongly Friday that Obama’s move would shield from deportation large numbers of immigrants living in the country illegally, as advocacy groups have demanded.

    Roughly 5 million of the estimated 11 million people who entered the country without legal authorization or overstayed their visas could be protected under a leading option the White House is considering, according to officials who discussed the proposals on condition of anonymity.

    Obama said last month that because Congress had failed to act on comprehensive immigration reform, he would take executive action to “fix as much of our immigration system as I can on my own.” ​



    Now let’s examine Obama’s evolution on illegal immigration. From Patterico:(http://patterico.com/2014/07/26/president-obama-on-illegal-immigration-then-and-now/)

    President Obama, July, 2010:


    For example, there are those in the immigrants’ rights community who have argued passionately that we should simply provide those who are [here] illegally with legal status, or at least ignore the laws on the books and put an end to deportation until we have better laws. And often this argument is framed in moral terms: Why should we punish people who are just trying to earn a living?

    I recognize the sense of compassion that drives this argument, but I believe such an indiscriminate approach would be both unwise and unfair. It would suggest to those thinking about coming here illegally that there will be no repercussions for such a decision. And this could lead to a surge in more illegal immigration. And it would also ignore the millions of people around the world who are waiting in line to come here legally. ​


    President Obama’s response to an immigration challenge, November, 2013:

    “I need your help,” a young man shouted, as he called for the president to halt the deportations of some of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country. “You have a power to stop deportations for all.”

    “Actually, I don’t, and that’s why we’re here,” the president responded as the heckler and several others continued shouting, breaking out into a chant of “stop deportations!”

    “Now, what you need to know, when I’m speaking as president of the United States, and I come to this community, is that, in fact, if I could solve all these problems without passing laws in Congress, then I would do so,” Obama said. “But we’re also a nation of laws. That’s part of our tradition. And so the easy way out is to try to yell and pretend like I can do something by violating our laws.”

    “What I’m proposing is the harder path, which is to use our democratic processes to achieve the same goal that you want to achieve, but it won’t be as easy as just shouting,” he continued. “It requires us lobbying and getting it done.”​


    President Obama, now:

    [White House] officials are laying the groundwork for a large-scale expansion of immigrant rights that would come by executive action within weeks.

    Officials signaled strongly Friday that Obama’s move would shield from deportation large numbers of immigrants living in the country illegally, as advocacy groups have demanded.

    Roughly 5 million of the estimated 11 million people who entered the country without legal authorization or overstayed their visas could be protected under a leading option the White House is considering, according to officials who discussed the proposals on condition of anonymity.

    The first thing we note is that Obama again validates Jim Geraghty. Absolutely nothing Obama says is durable. He cannot ever be taken at his word. ​


    (Excerpt)

    Read more:
    http://floppingaces.net/2014/07/28/obama-will-have-illegals-voting-by-november/

    We know that Obama is a habitual liar. Why would he want $3.7 Billion to solve this when he can charge the countries that are sending these illegals here? How many of these illegals are Middle Eastern terrorists? It's not about the children, it's all about votes. National Security and the health of Americans exposed to these illegals means nothing to Progressive Democrats. Personally I would hold the President of Mexico directly responsible and ship these illegals to Mexico City and charge him for transportation.
     
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    What a shock.

    Nothing in the title of the thread is true.

    Why do the people who accuse President Obama of lying, feel a need to do so about President Obama?
     
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    Super21 Banned

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    Accuse? Like I was able to keep my healthcare plan like Obama said I would? MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
  4. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Reports are Obama will sign an EO granting amnesty to over 5 million illegals. To think he has no motive for doing so is ridiculous.

    The real question is... why do you people continue to support this wannabe dictator?
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why do we accuse him? Dude WTF? We have him on video lying. We aren't accusing him of being a liar, he is a liar.
    This filthy joke of a President is aiding and abetting invading foreigners. He is doing it to increase the voter base for democrats by handing out freebies to criminals. We know he doesn't care about people as he let four Americans die for votes in the last election.
     
  6. John S

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    As long as they vote Democratic.
     
  7. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    Why do you think the government prohibits the states from asking drivers license applicants for proof of citizenship as they register to vote under Motor Voter Laws?
     
  8. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    You would believe anything.........
     
  9. Omnipotent

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    Probably because his lips were moving....

    [video=youtube;kg9m1F8B2_c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9m1F8B2_c[/video]
     
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    Margot2 Banned

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    You know that you have to be a US citizen to vote, don't you? Or did you skip that in school?
     
  11. PatrickT

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    Not really, Margot. Unlike you, she's quite skeptical of things she hears from the king and his court.
     
  12. PatrickT

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    No, you don't, Margot. You have to be a U.S. citizen to legally vote. You have to be alive to legally vote. You have to have not already voted to legally vote. All of those technicalities are routinely ignored by liberals.

    You're also supposed to have a visa or other lawful permission to enter the U.S. from Mexico. How's that going, Margot? Those undocumented Democrats are responding to the invitations from Obama like good little Democrats.
     
  13. Omnipotent

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    Not any more. Dead people, illegal aliens, pets, and zombies are all allowed to vote now....that is if they vote Democrat.

    But what does that have to do with the video I just posted?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I cannot believe Obama would give Green Cards to millions of illegals.

    He would be impeached if he tried such a thing, and his action reversed.
     
  15. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you claim that Obama does not and has not lied to the American People whatsoever? Unless you've been living under a rock for the last six years how can you come to that conclusion?
    Then please explain the following:

    8 Times The White House Has Been Caught Lying About ...
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    Jan 21, 2014 · Dear Conservative, The Obama administration has been caught lying about Obamacare once again! This time, the administration was caught ...
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    Obama Administration Just Got Caught in a Massive Lie ...
    http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/05/23/obama-administration-just-got-caught-massive-lie
    May 23, 2014 · WVOC.com: The LA Times has been as friendly as possible to the Obama administration, but they can't ignore this. Today they broke the story that …
     
  16. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you explained that to the illegal aliens that have been caught voting? Hmm..., perhaps the illegal skipped that in the schools they attend(ed)?
     
  17. PatrickT

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    Of course not. You can{t vote with a green card. It will be that short path to citizenship.
     

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