Report: Michael may have committed Second Degree murder as a Juvie

From the looks of it he probably was a rough, bad ass kid and I haven't made a claim about what kind of person he was or wasn't. He said several people were calling him a "model citizen" so I asked him to post it.

Now "gentle giant" doesn't not mean "model citizen".

 

Gentle Giant actually implies that he was a complete victim in life, never had a chance, was gunned down just for being black

 

So what if he did it has no bearing on being shot while unarmed. Plus they can sue all they want his juvie records are sealed. If the article is even remotely true. Fox has not even reported this over reach.

 

35% of murders are committed by people who do not have a gun. The idea that a 300 lb 6 foot 4 thug is "unarmed" is ridiculous to me

 

That is a might big assumption. I suspect that if Brown was convicted of anything violent in his past, the family of his victim would have already stepped forward for their 15 minutes of fame. I don't view speculation as news.

 

That's because Ferguson's mayor is a republican and St. Louis has been run by Democrat single-party rule since the 1950's.

 

The fact that brown did not have an adult record was known within a few days.

But what is currently called rumor is whether brown hade a juve record.

And there libs are right to fear the worst.

 

You don't read the news much do you? A watch dog group is suing to get his juvenile criminal record, yes he reportedly has one. I'll post it when it's made public.

 

Please rephrase that I can't make sense of what you posted.

 

(b) Unless jurisdiction of the juvenile has been transferred to superior court, all law enforcement records and files concerning a juvenile shall be kept separate from the records and files of adults and shall be withheld from public inspection.


This link was necessary since Liberals have shown how mind-numblingly frustrating they can be.

 

Produce the evidence.

 

Two separate states

It goes towards a pattern of behavior.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c200-299/2110000321.htm

They can in Missouri if I am reading this correctly

 

No it isn't.

Again- whether or not the shooting was justified I don't know- most of what we hear now is speculation and rumor- but yes a 300 lbs man is still unarmed if he doesn't have a weapon.

And a man with a weapon is more dangerous than one without.

 

We also need to have the complete file on the officer who shot and killed the young man, including all inter-departmental correspondence and community complaints lodged against him. It would also be helpful to gain access to his high school and college records. Sauce for the Goose.....

 

the police department already stated this does not exist.........no complaints

what on earth do you need high school and college records for?

 

Because if the defense offers evidence that the victim was violent, the prosecutor is allowed to admit any evidence that the defendant is also violent.

According to that if he had killed someone it would already be available to the public without a court order. And patterns of behavior are bad, normally evidence is not allowed to prove such, unless you are trying to prove a character trait of the crime.

In this case it would be violence of the victim, so unless there are violent crimes on there (and as the statute you gave shows they would be unsealed without a court order if they amounted to felonies), they will not come in.

The other problem with juvenile proceedings is that they do not use a reasonable doubt standard for prove, so any value they have in a court is lessened.

 

when did the cops mention the deceased hurt the cop? not in the beginning, that is the cops fault if that news was not released

maybe that is because the cop was not punched, but instead grabbed the kid through the car window, the kid ran and pulled the cop into the door.... all the cops would of had to do is let go to not be injured

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He has no personnel file?

 

that is not what they said, they said no complaints that were filed

 

there was no gun in the GZ case. None was found. YOu had a guy leave his vehicle, follow TM to the T crossing on the property, a fight ensued, and someone got killed. what it boiled down to is that the defense did a better job than the prosecution and that is all.

 

The juvenile court has been petitioned to produce the evidence.

 

I disagree, prohibition creates crime

you take a nice family drinking wine with dinner, arrest them for nothing more then drinking wine with dinner, give them a criminal record, it's the gateway to crime for many

http://eazysmoke.com/marijuana-quotes.htm

"The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
- Albert Einstein quote on Hemp"

 

It may be up to the judge, but the judge still has to follow the rules of evidentiary procedure here under Missouri State law and the county they are in. And under Missouri law, the court record will remain sealed because it will prejudice the jury on the conviction and that officer Wislon did not know of his record at the time of the incident. Unless one of those two criteria are met, the record will remain sealed for criminal ttrial, if there is one.

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And when you read the bottom of the article, it was been denied.

 

Only if MB is the defendant in a criminal trial, but he is not. Thus your premise is completely wrong.


BTW, you may want to read that section again, specifically subparagraph 4.

 

Yes, but I think they resubmitted or maybe appealed.

In the interests of preventing ferguson from being burned to the ground the authorities may not unseal the records.

But I think they should.