Fundraising Effort for Ferguson Cop Who Shot Michael Brown Gets Ugly

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  1. TomFitz

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    What results do I "so badly want"? Since you're on the verge of putting words in my mouth (as right wingers frequently do) lets hear it.

    I want to see the facts.

    Not "facts" based on an anonymous caller calling in to a rigth wing talk radio show.

    Not "facts" based on doctored clip art posted on a right wing blog.
     
  2. snakestretcher

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    "...aggressive and entitled primitive savages..." (from Brad Moody who donated $100) is a beauty, don't you think? Yes folks, overt racism is alive and kicking in America.
     
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    None of which has anything to do with the police or the time it took the investigators to show up. What are you debating? Keep in mind CNN verified "Josie". Stop being so damn biased.
     
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    I never blame the victim.

    Clue: A victim is one who is injured/killed through no fault of his own.

    Brown got exactly what he deserved. Darwin works in wonderful ways.
     
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    Scuttlebutt,heresay and mere pap.We don't know what the Police dept.
    did,or had done.In fact,we were Lied to about the release of the Video.
    Early on Eric Holder informed the Police dept.to NOT release the
    Convenience Store video.They cooperated with Holder's firm order.
    It was a Freedom of Information filing by media that mandated release of that
    Convenience store video.NOT the Police dept.
    A Sunshine law mandated that the Video be made public.NOT the Police Dept.
    Stop with all the lies.
    This is like Tawana Brawley and The Duke Rape case all rolled into one.
    It's the Black mobs who are openly hurling Lies and speculation.
    NOT the Police Dept. in Ferguson or the white officers.
    Now the latest thing used by the Black mob is the length of time
    it took to cover the body of Michael Brown.And the fact even when they did cover the
    body { how long did the Body remain in the street } they left a foot {shoe } exposed.
    This entire Ferguson Fracus is an attempt to Rile-up blacks in this country.
    So that hopefully they'll turn out in November.Because in off elections { Not
    Presidential elections } turnout is usually weak.
    Sharpton has mentioned the need to stop being lazy and Vote more than a few times
    in Ferguson. meaning there's an agenda at play here.
     
  6. Wake_Up

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    I am not, and did not say "all" blacks....but there was looting by blacks, yes? There was rioting by blacks, yes? The actions speak for themselves. We had nearly the same thing when Trayvon was shot. This is not an isolated incident by any means. We do have many blacks supporting it. We have Al Sharpton dancing on the racist line with his inciting speeches. Hell,we even have a government sending delegates (more they they even sent to the funerals of former heads of state's funerals). Please explain to us exactly what we should make of that?

    To try to pretend that the Ferguson cop has not been tried and convicted in the minds of many blacks is ridiculous. Why is it when there is any confrontation between a white cop and a black person we see this rioting and looting and general civil misbehavior? Why is that? Why do so many blacks immediately call racism and convict the cop without a clue to any of the real facts? Why is that?

    I even saw an article calling for the police there should be comprised of all blacks. So, if that's the case, then I have to ask, how can things be equal if a group still wants segregation, or selective equality?

    I never said because he was tall, large and black he naturally assaulted anyone. I called you on labeling him a "boy", which he clearly was not. This is the same BS tactic used with Trayvon, to try to portray him as some young, innocent little child. He was a legal adult, he was physically large. Stop the twisting of reality.
     
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    Apparently the media told the police they wanted the video, due to the Freedom of Information Act.

    As far as your silly accusation of "belatedly".... the media was saying he responded to a robbery.
    What did the police owe you, in regard to how fast they said "no, he wasn't". ?
    Not a thing.


    Poor blacks and that total control the police have over them.... forcing them to riot/loot/steal/destroy/burn.
    I'm sure they hate doing it.... they were forced to by police.
     
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    Gandhi never shot anyone either. And not everyone has Dr. King's patience.





     
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    The Police are an agency empowered to uphold the law, the citizens are the ones who wish the law to be upheld. If the public that wants justice but refuses to cooperate what are they to do? Has Officer Wilson been charged with a crime? :roll:
     
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    I guess in your eyes Dr. King got what he deserved also. How about Malcolm X or Medgar Evers.
     
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    the cops are also citizens... if they want a honest police force, they will snitch on their fellow cops when they do wrong.... not doing so risks the trust of the community




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    The Ferguson Police Department did not have a choice about releasing that video. The case was closed and FOIA requests had been made. They can't claim ongoing investigation when they have "Exceptionally Closed" as the case status. The fact that it shows Michael Brown was in fact, not the sweet little cherub that everyone wanted us to believe, needed to come out. If you don't want your strong-armed robbery videos to come out, don't commit the crime.
     
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    It also looks though racism is alive and well in the UK, even the use of the word "thug."

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    Wake Up Football And Stop Pretending Racism Doesn't Exist
    Posted: 25/08/2014 15:05 BST Updated: 25/08/2014 15:59 BST
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    Excusing racism is as bad as expressing it. The former fuels the latter, almost as if it's a subtle - though often completely unintentional - form of endorsement.

    It is one of the reasons we have seen such a spate of anti-semitic attacks in the past weeks, because the language and action of thugs have been frighteningly intellectualised. Removing kosher food from supermarket shelves is justified in puerile political terms, hate mobs get away with it because their 'cause' allows them to express such appalling sentiments.

    And now perhaps we have the very worst example of such blind-eye turning. A former Premiership football manager, Malky Mackay, is found to have exchanged revolting texts with a colleague, referring to a 'fat Jew' and '*****s' and a stream of homophobic and sexist sentiments.

    But he's a good lad at heart you see, it was just "friendly text message banter" according to his representatives, adding that the texts ''were, with the benefit of hindsight, very regrettable and disrespectful of other cultures".

    Remember the storm when that nasty foreigner Luis Suarez allegedly (at the time) used racist language on the pitch? Influential pundits like Gary Lineker and Rio Ferdinand led calls for severe punishment.
    That kind of language might be OK in Montevideo, but not here they cried.

    So I was surprised not to read more of Gary and Rio this time around - or not at the time of writing this article anyway. This is, after all, an even more clear-cut example of racism. But this is a 'god lad' we're talking about (a Briton of course, not a foreigner), someone they can call their friend. And so their disgust is levelled at the suits of the League Managers Association, whose cack-handed 'banter' response makes them look like dinosaurs defending the indefensible.

    In an even more astonishing statement, QPR manager Harry Redknapp said: 'He's not murdered
    anyone, he's not a rapist or a paedophile. He's made a big mistake. It happens. He's a family man, a football man. Obviously someone is after him, ain't they?''

    And there we have it. A mate is revealed to have expressed racist sentiments and we should excuse and forgive it. After all, there's another agenda here. (Presumably Harry means the revenge of Mackay's former boss, Vincent Tan, a moustachioed Asian businessman who bought Cardiff football club and was memorably and not at all offensively likened to a 'Bond villain' by Harry's son Jamie.)

    What planet are these people on? Banter? Mistake? Presumably the former colleague who once snidely asked me why Jews are 'so good at holding on to their money' was just having a laugh. Or when, in an editorial conference, a story was rejected for inclusion in the newspaper because the celebrity involved 'is just a bum bandit'. Not homophobic, maybe a bit crude.

    Equally, the lack of black faces on the front of newspapers and magazines is not at all racist - it's just that, well, white faces sell more copies. That sentiment isn't racist, it's just excused as a commercial decision.

    When Ukip politicians are caught expressing racist sentiments they are excused for being 'tired' in the case of Nigel Farage, or linguistically naïve in the case of his followers. But not racist.
    We pride ourselves on being a liberal, understanding society in which racism is condemned but, just as importantly, the 'causes' of racism need to be understood. Fine. I'm all for understanding, it's one of the most important means of changing people's vile attitudes.

    But excusing is an entirely different - and far more worrying - attitude.

    The deafening silence from fellow football professionals coupled with the absurd comments from the LMA, Redknapp and others are only making a problem that is deeply entrenched in society worse.

    See no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil of friends who reveal their true selves. It's why anti-semitism is on the rise and why football is as far removed from reality as ever.
     
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    Who claimed he was a "sweet little cherub"?
     
  15. Wake_Up

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    How many whites did you count looting and rioting in Ferguson?

    I thought so...
     
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    Exactly because a certain half of the debate tried and convicted the shooter on the race card with zero evidence.

    Hard to have a one sided debate.

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    Oh, boy. Internet anecdotes as news. Great job over there at Mother Jones.
     
  18. Wake_Up

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    I dunno, Bill Clinton was still president after he lied to congress and got impeached...yet they felt the need to beg for donations to their legal fund...

    One thing's for sure though, the presidential salary is quite a bit more than a town cops salary.....just sayin.
     
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    Ummm. Hate to state the obvious but the only thing billy shot off was his willy.

    Just sayin'....
     
  20. Wake_Up

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    Based on all of the calls, reports, etc that you have seen, what are, in your mind "the current facts" in this case?

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    Did you post all the twitter threats from blacks against whites in the Trayvon case and rant against that racism too? No?

    Racist.
     
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    Did any of them do anything to warrant getting shot?

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    and believe it or not, that happens.
     
  22. Wake_Up

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    Didn't mom and pop say he was a "gentle giant"??

    I think a few posters here keep calling him a "boy".

    Ah..I know, you don't understand what rhetorical analogy is, you are playing faux rage over exact words....
     
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    The crime is irrelevant. The need for financial aid to pay your lawyer is....

    Oh, but wait, I get it...the cop is guilty ('cuz he's white), so no one should be on his side...got'cha.
     
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    Please please please please please please please please please please show me where i made ANY such assertation. Good luck.
     
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    Are you a parent? Most parents characterize their kids in a softer light. So people called him a boy? 18 is barely adult. My son is 22...i still call him kiddo.
     

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