There really is no possibility of the GOP becoming more racially diverse...

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  1. WallStreetVixen

    WallStreetVixen New Member

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    Why is it important for the GOP to become more racially diverse?

    We never have these sort of discussions in the UK...
     
  2. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    Because of the REAL, not the Leftie trumped up Demographics, it is NOT important for the GOP to become more racially diverse, even though, because of interracial marriage, in fact, the GOP is becoming much more racially diverse.

    But there is an underlying theme happening in American Politics and our elections which is something that hasn't been brought up yet, at least on this thread.

    The very same Black Americans who are preaching the gospel of the Leftie Cult of Black Victimology, have a much greater impact on American elections than their actual demographic percentage of the population would indicate... BECAUSE they CHEAT at the elections with massive Voter Fraud!

    And for some odd reason, we let them get away with the Voter Fraud, hiding behind the now completely corrupt "Voting Rights Act" and Race-Card Politics.

    In a perfect America, the spoiled, anti-white bigoted, Black-Victim element of the American Demographic could easily be ignored and forgotten, to focus on the problems of the vast majority of Americans.

    But when the majority of the Black-Victim-Cult population is making up false voter ID registrations, and cast votes 2-12 times per election, their voting Clout is amplified to a degree that they cannot simply be ignored.

    IMHO, the thing to do about the problem, is implement Purple-Finger or PhotoID requirement for every election, and start and aggressive program at a federal level of investigating, prosecuting, and imprisoning those committing Voter Fraud, and as Felons, the culprits loose their right to vote in our election permanently.

    That would pair back the Black-Victim voting clout to a level to puts them in proper and realistic perspective. They would no longer be able to demand the un-Constitutional and Illegal concessions and preferences they have been getting from the completely corrupt Lefties for the last 45 years!

    But the first step to returning to the Rule-of-Law and democracy, is to impeach, remove from office, and prosecute Eric Holder for aiding and abetting Voter Fraud and Voter Intimidation, for the Samir Shabazz debacle, and force the Obama administration to accept a replacement A.G. selected by Congress, and not the Traditional White House nomination, as a substitute for Impeachment and removal of Obama himself, for his involve in Eric Holder's violations of the LAW.

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  3. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, that is not how life works. You want to have a discussion about why policy is the way it is today without putting in any effort to be knowledgeable about the events that led to that policy.

    I guess you feel the same way about the constitution also? It wasn't created in your lifetime, do you want to discard it also?
     
  4. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    Geez, I don't know, I guess it's because I don't refer to my friends as "minority friends"
     
  5. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then carry on with your baggage and victim hood. I will look forward to calling you out. And you think I am not aware of American history and race? (*)(*)(*)(*)ing white progressives....

     
  6. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    The various U.K political factions have different political levers or hammers that they use when dealing with the opposition; that's all.

    In the United States the Left has found racial issues to be a massively effective dual purpose ideological and political tool -- first as a lever and then as a hammer. As a lever it is routinely used to get a tremendous amount of taxpayers' funds under their control. Obviously it is also routinely utilized as a hammer for whacking the opposition on the head with whenever they possibly can.

    The only reason that the Right does not do the same thing in the identical way with the racial issue is because the Grand Old Party actually tends to believe in the concept of self-determination, individualism, personal responsibility, and so forth; and so the GOP leadership cannot do what the Left so blithely does in regard to cynically using racial issues as a political tool, because you CANNOT make entire communities of a race or ethnic minority groups almost wholly dependent on never ending government largess (with absolutely zero strings attached -- well, effectively anyway) for generations . . . and still be Republican or conservative by politics or ideology.

    Thus all the Right can do is push back against accusations of racism emanating in a constant stream via -- generally -- a distinctly Left-biased mainstream media. The Right has got to push back for two reasons. First the Left's endless lies do make a significant political results-difference and because one cannot be for freedom and do to Blacks and ethnic minorities what the Left routinely does to them for nothing more than cynical political advantage.
     
  7. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    There has not been one instance where you've proved to me you do. Call out all you want, you'll just make yourself angry when the conversation doesn't go the way you thought it will.

    You maybe shouldn't judge people by assuming things.
     
  8. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prove to you, who the (*)(*)(*)(*) are you to me to prove anything.

     
  9. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    tsk, tsk, temper, temper

    You opened that book when you said "And you think I am not aware of American history and race?"
     
  10. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No temper, just correcting progressive stupidity Glock.

     
  11. Glock

    Glock Well-Known Member

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    Well, you failed at that also. Kinda hard to correct something that isn't there.

    I suggest we leave it at that, seeing how this isn't going anywhere.
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    You certainly misunderstand me. I'm calling for FULL responsibility from ALL, not any damned excuses.
     
  13. Toefoot

    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Like I said, carry on with your baggage. Better yet, put me on ignore because I will hunt you down and call you out on your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) in the future since you can not prove how progressive policy has produced independent thinking and successful people as a whole and not just with minorities. Progressive policy has created more division among this nation with government picking winners and looser.

    This has come from both sides of the isles, here is the latest taste of what progressive policy is, The illegal immigrant hit and killed 2 girls.....no Jail time and no deportation:

    A judge in Oregon has dismissed the deportation case against Cinthya Garcia-Cisneros, a 19-year-old illegal immigrant who killed two young girls in a hit-and-run car accident last year. Though Garcia-Cisneros was in the midst of removal proceedings, she is now released and will not face deportation. Garcia-Cisneros, who came from Mexico as a child, had permission to be in the country under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program instituted by President Obama in 2012.

    Last October, Garcia-Cisneros was driving in Oregon when she hit two sisters, Anna Dieter-Eckerdt, 6, and Abigail Robinson, 11, as the girls were playing in a pile of leaves. Garcia-Cisneros apparently drove through the leaf pile, unable to see the little girls playing in it. She fled the scene, later claiming she had no idea she had hit anyone. Garcia-Cisneros claimed she realized she had killed the children only after her brother returned to the scene, spoke with the grieving father of one of the girls, and reported back.

    Garcia-Cisneros did not go back to the scene of the accident. Her boyfriend took her Nissan Pathfinder to a car wash to have it cleaned immediately afterward, and both he and Garcia-Cisneros initially lied to police when asked about the accident.

    The parents of the girls and the fiancee of Anna Dieter-Eckerdt’s biological father say they have forgiven her and asked for clemency.

    In January, a judge sentenced Garcia-Cisneros to probation and community service, a notably light sentence for fleeing the scene after hitting and killing two little girls.

    Though she avoided prison, as an illegal whose felony conviction canceled her DACA protection, she was taken to an immigration detention center. Local paper The Oregonian explains:

    But Garcia-Cisneros was then taken to the Northwest Detention Center in Tacoma, Wash. because she is not an American citizen. She was brought here as a child and had temporary permission to be in the country through the federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. Her felony conviction disqualified her from that program, however, and she was in danger of being deported.

    When President Obama first instituted DACA in June 2012, we were told by the administration and its supporters in both parties that these were children straight out of a Norman Rockwell painting – the next generation of physicists, mechanics, doctors, and lawyers. These were law-abiding “dreamers.”

    Garcia-Cisneros’ felony conviction should have disqualified her for DACA, but the immigration judge in her case, whose name was not released by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, has canceled the deportation proceedings. Garcia-Cisneros is now back under DACA’s protection and benefits — a free woman who qualifies for a work permit and a social security number.

    Laws for ordinary Americans are harsher than ever, while illegal immigrants are absolved of crimes with a slap on the wrist and deportation proceedings canceled.

    How come American citizens, black, white or purple would not be under the same protection Glock? (*)(*)(*)(*) progressive policy makers and race hustlers.

    Glock, between you and I no failure, I am candid for a reason.

    Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...xYGYDA&usg=AFQjCNFcRE5H7ouBj8fOPV-620FB2JKOsg


     
  14. Johnny-C

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    Amen!!

    And I'm not suggesting that some Black people cannot be absolutely terrible. But I will say that many White Americans are JUST AS HUMAN. And in 2014, I cannot abide witnessing people deny that before my eyes; even right here in this forum.
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sorry Johnny, I have had my coffee now.

     
  16. ManifestDestiny

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    The whole strategy for the right wing when it comes to racism is to deny racism in every and any case where it actually exists, but to than act like white people are the ones facing REAL discrimination lol, not black people or minorities. Another thing the right wing does is pretend Christians, the majority, are being oppressed by the minority..... Its absolutely hilarious. We already know your strategy, its nothing new and all right wingers do it. Literally its this simple,. "Racism against blacks? Deny it. Fake racism against whites? Scream it out loud like its the end of the world."
     
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    Generalizing from one or two instances to,prove a position is pretty weak beer.
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1 or 2? What rock are you living under Jester? My Beer of Choice is Fat Tire or most things brewed by the New Belgium Brewing Company.

    (*)(*)(*)(*)ing bumper sticker wisdom.

     
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    How exactly does racism benefit the right wing? It doesn't. The only people racism benefits is the left wing. The left wing shouts racism at every corner even when there isn't any for the sole purpose of securing the black vote. Which in itself is racist. The left are racial arsonists and they do it simply to get votes.
    Much like the hilarious leftists here on cape cop who stated people against illegals were racists.....up until Obama started shipping them here to the cape, then they protested the governor until he caved. Hilarious hypocrites. You aren't fooling anyone. Yeah you guys love minorities as long as they vote for your candidate but stay away from your neighborhoods. The left is a joke. Im not even sure how a brain develops leftist thinking but it is fascinating to watch it try to convince other people that their imaginations are reality.
     
  20. FairDemFem

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    Well yeah. You should have some interactions with some of the people I have had interactions with and ask them yourself. Maybe you'd see it's not just my opinion.
     
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    Martin Luther King did.
     
  22. WallStreetVixen

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    Personal anecdotes provide proof of very little.
     
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    The right wing benefits from racism by dividing and conquering the lower classes, the left wing benefits by exposing racism for what it is by uniting the lower classes against the rich white elites. If you are going to deny the elite of this country are old rich white guys lol, than you lose all credibility.
     
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    Fixed that for you...
     
  25. ManifestDestiny

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    Martin Luther King Jr. was a Communist sympathizer and a liberal, he also voted for Lyndon B. Johnson, a liberal.

    "3. From a speech given in Oslo, Norway after Lyndon B. Johnson crushed Barry Goldwater in the 1964 Presidential election:

    Another indication that progress is being made was found in the recent presidential election in the United States. The American people revealed great maturity by overwhelmingly rejecting a presidential candidate who had become identified with extremism, racism, and retrogression (opposite of "progressive"). The voters of our nation rendered a telling blow to the radical right. They defeated those elements in our society which seek to pit white against Negro and lead the nation down a dangerous Fascist path.

    But in spite of the shortcomings of his analysis, Marx had raised some basic questions. I was deeply concerned from my early teen days about the gulf between superfluous wealth and abject poverty, and my reading of Marx made me ever more conscious of this gulf. Although modern American capitalism had greatly reduced the gap through social reforms, there was still need for a better distribution of wealth. Moreover, Marx had revealed the danger of the profit motive as the sole basis of an economic system: capitalism is always in danger of inspiring men to be more concerned about making a living than making a life. We are prone to judge success by the index of our salaries or the size of our automobiles, rather than by the quality of our service and relationship to humanity" - Martin Luther King Jr.

    Not only did King want more wealth redistribution but he also attacked the radical right as being racist fascists, exactly how the left wing does which im sure you are well aware of. Martin Luther King Jr. was NOT a conservative, conservatives of the time condemned him as a Communist. The only reason you pretend to like him now is to spread radical right wing propaganda.
     

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