POLL: Is Obama a good Muslim?

Is Obama a good Muslim?

 

Obama's not a Muslim at all. He's pretty much Unitarian, having only claimed Christianity for political reasons. His grandmother was buried in a Unitarian ceremony. Obama is not Muslim. If he were, he'd be considered an apostate, and there would be a call for him to be killed by Muslims. Obama is third generation leftist radical.

 

You may or may not be correct, but his catering to muslims especially the muslim brotherhood makes one suspicious.

 

Well when the going gets tough---this is were Obama is going.

In “Audacity of Hope” he writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” The quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.
http://www.conservativecrusader.com/articles/b-hussein-obama-i-will-stand-with-the-muslims

Hardly the stance of a good Christian---or even a pagan atheist liberal.

 

no it makes lunatics suspicious.

 

What an idiotic question.

In the vein of

"Have you stopped beating your wife?"

 

Ummm no it doesn't.

Conservatives lied to you.

Amazon makes it easy to check.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Audacity-Hope-Thoughts-Reclaiming/dp/0307455874

And of course Snopes dealt with that long ago

will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
This statement is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of "Muslims":
In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/coilofrage.asp#Y3kOCiV73srXTEQO.99

So the question is- why did Conservatives lie to you about what Obama said?

 

This thread should be closed for trolling. It's one thing to speculate that Obama is a Muslim it's another to claim that he is.

If you're going to make the claim post some evidence. The fact that he says he is a Christian and attended a church for over 20 years is pretty strong evidence that he isn't a Muslim.

 

Mr. Obama is a credit to both the Muslim world and to Kenya.

Viva! Bravo!

 

“I’m a Christian by choice,” the president said. “My family, frankly, they weren’t folks who went to church every week. My mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew but she didn’t raise me in the church, so I came to my Christian faith later in life and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead. Being my brothers and sisters’ keeper, treating others as they would treat me, and I think also understanding that Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility we all have to have as human beings, that we’re sinful and we’re flawed and we make mistakes and we achieve salvation through the grace of God.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/obama-talks-about-his-faith-2/

The fringe right doesn't believe the President when he says he is a Christian.

But believes the President is a Muslim even though he has never said he is a Muslim, and does all the things Muslims are not supposed to do.

Maybe I should start a pole?

Does the fringe right believe Obama is a Muslims just because they are intensely ignorant about Islam- or because they will say anything to attack Obama?

 

Obama's an agnostic posing as a Christian

 

Arab and Pakistani Americans are overwhelmingly Islamic. He said he will stand with the overwhelming Muslim/Islamic groups should events turn against them.

Obviously, a stong preference---not as a bad as, "if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon"---but still, as usual, extremely biased.

If you look at the other passages in his writings, they are also very racial and prejudiced.

 

He is circumcised, so he must be a Jew or muslim. He is partially negro so he can't be Jewish. So he has to be a muslim. Is he a good one? Only compared to the most radical ones.

 

I nominate this thread for "most retarded thread of the day".

 

Clintons did the same, and they are clearly not Muslim.

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As an official member of the right wing, I don't think Obama is either a Christian or a Muslim, I think he's a third generation secularist.

(it's Poll).

 

why??

Christians are told to love one another..love thy enemy..

 

he didn't say he would stand with Muslims, you swallowed a lie..

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/obamas-dreams-of-my-father/

 

He was speaking of US citizens who are Muslim, you know....

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LOLOL.. yes it is stupid and childish.

 

Barack Obama looks Catholic to be. Is he connected with Baptist American movement?

 

So you stand behind the Conservative lie that you posted? You stand behind a lie that is clearly a lie?

He said he will stand with the overwhelming Muslim/Islamic groups should events turn against them.

No- and that is a lie also. Why do you feel compelled to take what he said out of context?

This statement is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of "Muslims":

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...iV73srXTEQO.99

So the question is- why do Conservatives lie to us about what Obama said?

Especially since Bush was far more specific about the exact same issue:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/u...-another-anniversary-worth-honoring.html?_r=0

In its immediate moment, Mr. Bush’s appearance at the Islamic Center of Washington may have helped to quell vigilante assaults on American Muslims and on those, like Sikhs, who were mistaken for them. At the policy level, the president’s words also served notice that unlike Franklin D. Roosevelt after the attack on Pearl Harbor, he would not intern or in any way collectively punish innocent American citizens who happened to share a religion or ethnicity with foreign foes.

After hailing American Muslims as “friends” and “taxpaying citizens” in his comments at the mosque, Mr. Bush went on to say: “These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it’s important for my fellow Americans to understand that.” He quoted from the Koran: “In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil.” Then he continued in his own words: “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don’t represent peace. They represent evil and war.”



Would you like to tell us what Bush was really saying?

Or perhaps this statement of Bush?

September 20, 2001

I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It's practiced freely by many millions of Americans, and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them.

Are Bush's words 'very racial and prejudiced' also?

 

Yea he is a good muslim

 

It's a stupid poll. Barack Obama certainly seems to hate America but he can't be a Moslem because he can't believe in a being, Allah, greater than himself.

 

So are you suggesting that as Muslim he would say "Allah is great, but I'm greater!"?

 

I don't believe everything Bush 1 or 2 said or every policy they had.

Unlike you, you are a fanatical Obama supporter.

Why didn't Obama last night mention the Islamic Terrorist Group IS or ISIS as being Islamic, when the I stands for Islamic? Obviously, he has a problem calling a spade a spade. However, being a pathological liar, I have a problem with any written or spoken statement from him.

 

Well that is a good way to get away from the lie that you posted- note I am not claiming that you lied- just that you posted clear Conservative lies- and to divert from that you go to attack Obama for lying.

So you stand behind the Conservative lie that you posted? You stand behind a lie that is clearly a lie?

He said he will stand with the overwhelming Muslim/Islamic groups should events turn against them.

No- and that is a lie also. Why do you feel compelled to take what he said out of context?

This statement is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of "Muslims":

In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...iV73srXTEQO.99

So the question is- why do Conservatives lie to us about what Obama said?

Especially since Bush was far more specific about the exact same issue:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/us...ring.html?_r=0

In its immediate moment, Mr. Bush’s appearance at the Islamic Center of Washington may have helped to quell vigilante assaults on American Muslims and on those, like Sikhs, who were mistaken for them. At the policy level, the president’s words also served notice that unlike Franklin D. Roosevelt after the attack on Pearl Harbor, he would not intern or in any way collectively punish innocent American citizens who happened to share a religion or ethnicity with foreign foes.

After hailing American Muslims as “friends” and “taxpaying citizens” in his comments at the mosque, Mr. Bush went on to say: “These acts of violence against innocents violate the fundamental tenets of the Islamic faith. And it’s important for my fellow Americans to understand that.” He quoted from the Koran: “In the long run, evil in the extreme will be the end of those who do evil.” Then he continued in his own words: “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don’t represent peace. They represent evil and war.”



Would you like to tell us what Bush was really saying?

Or perhaps this statement of Bush?

September 20, 2001

I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It's practiced freely by many millions of Americans, and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them.