US Intelligence Confirms Russian Version: Boeing shot down by Ukranian Govt

The German government has issued a document about downed Boeing http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=373715

 

Not enough evidence to make a definitive determination either way.

 

Yeah....it was a Missile...no doubt....U.S. Satellite Data confirms it.

The United States has a Network of Spy Satellites that cover and observe every square inch of Planet Earth either if these Satellites are in low orbit or Geostationary Orbit.

We know what happened and who did it and who was operating the Russian built Mobile SAM battery.

AboveAlpha

 

These Missiles DETONATE within proximity of the intended aircraft.

This Russian built missile could have easily passed by the aircraft but detonated either above, below, to the sides or impacted it....but the wreckage we saw indicates the Missile Exploded in PROXIMITY to the 777.

AboveAlpha

 

What planes were that? NATO? Whom were you fighting for? Robert Mugabe, the corrupt guy who's wife goes shopping in New York while the people in Zimbabwe die of starvation???
Izwerg, what are YOU doing on this forum? Are you retired or wounded?

 

I have actually done JOBS in Africa...and the suffering of the people is horrific.

Disease, Starvation, Warlords stealing U.S. AID Food drops.....Child Warriors....a drug called BROWN-BROWN.

I have seen things in Africa that were so beynd unreal it is difficult to discuss.

But be it Angola or Liberia or Uganda or Somalia....Warlords will surround themselves with schoolchildren if they have to.

When we were sent there...every time....we had to eliminate a Problem.

But a NEW PROBLEM pops up as soon as the old one is gone!

Africa is a cursed and sad place.

AboveAlpha

 

Good then you know why Gen. Romeo Dallaires had his breakdown and why I have zero respect for the UN something when I was a child I really thought could help make a difference.

You also know why I think Obama's foreign policy from day one to today created the vacuum in world led to the rise of Putin and why I point the finger squarely at Obama for his absolute screw up in Syria, his decision to get into bed with the Muslim Brotherhood, Erdogan and Morsi and why I have zero time of day for Obama's decision to train and finance the scum called ISIL in Turkey.


Everyone turns rogue on the company-it has no respect and you know that.

I do not want to see one more soldier die because of their incompetence.


As for the Russian accumulation of buttoxes on this forum what can I say. Creative with their disinformation they are not.

Excuse my anger. I am genuinely frustrated.

Its not just Americans who do not like to see the American flag pissed on AO.

Some of your allies are fed up with it.

 

we know it wasn't a Su25, it just isn't capable of taking down a 777 at that speed and altitude...so that only leaves a SAM...and let's not forget the russians bragged about shooting the plane then quickly retracted the claim when it was discovered it was a commercial airline...

 

If the genuises in Washington DC did nothing but (*)(*)(*)(*) on the American flag, we and hundreds of millions of people in other countries would be very much better off.

Go ahead, keep on worrying about a flag, and keep on believing the party line of the war crazies that have shamed America for over 100 years.

 

Africa is not cursed. We have cursed the people who live there. We (Europe & America) created most the political (war) problems in Africa.
We curse them with our perfectly rotten example of "civilization" that can only communicate with threats, ultimatums and violence;
Cursed them by suddenly withdrawing whatever stability we had managed to create;
Armed and supplied the war crazies;
Contributed to divisions and animosities;
Destroyed or undermined stable governments;
Used biological warfare upon the people of Africa.

 

Is it because White Man interfered and exploited that continent? By the looks of it they still do:

“The corporations use the labor and land, the people pay the price. It is absolutely modern day slavery. It is exploitation and makes you think about a 500 year history of exploitation of the African continent from its people during the days of slavery and now its resources.”

"According to the United Nations and several human rights organizations, many of the conflicts on the African continent can be traced to the control of mineral resources.
However, instead of reaping the financial benefits of their considerable mineral resources, the African people are instead left with a deteriorating quality of life.
The multinational corporations leave behind a shameful legacy of the manipulation of African governments, the mistreatment of generations of African people along with toxic waste dumped into the same water they use to bathe and drink."
etc.

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/pub...tation_of_Africa_s_land_and_people_5661.shtml
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Well, white Man has been a greedy beast! Still is!

 

Uhhh sorry, but Su25 are not the only jets Kiev has. They have others that can reach the height the airliner was at, and they are on the Russian satellite photos. They were also mentioned by the Spanish controller who was working that day. As for the tapes, they're doctored. Their authenticity has not been verified by anyone. Kiev has a habit of making up those things. Let's just say they are not known for their honesty.

 

Jazz is it the corporations, or is it the corruption within their own governments?

 

You're probably right Ivan, we cause friction between the different ethnic and religious groups and feed the corrupt for our own benefit.

 

No they aren't and I dare you to prove me wrong by linking them ? I'm very good at military aircraft identification so you better get it right

By all means prove it ? I'm still waiting for the name of this phantom Spanish controller BTW ?

 

It is both! First the government prepares the condition for the looting and then the corporate vultures move in.
Some of the European Kingdoms are guilty of crimes against humanity. The queens decorate themselves with gold and diamonds obtained under gruesome slavery.
Read here about King Leopold...
http://www.yale.edu/gsp/colonial/belgian_congo/index.html

The Butcher of Congo

Only 90 years ago, the agents of King Leopold II of Belgium massacred 10 million Africans in the Congo. Cutting off hands as we see in Sierra Leone today, was very much part of Leopold's repertoire.

Today, Leopold's "rubber terror" has all been swept under the carpet. Adam Hochschild calls it "the great forgetting" in his brilliant new book, King Leopold's Ghost, recently published by Macmillan.
This is a story of greed, exploitation and brutality that Africa and the world must not forget.

Read all here:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/35/181.html

 

USA brought war, famine and misery in Africa.

 

But the Su-25 can do it. A Russian did not talk about it. This is fake.

 

No actually it can't and the reasons why have been gone through multiple times now. Even 'Jeannette' has given up on that one

 

We still remember, we have not forgotten anything.

 

I did not!!!

January 31, 2014 12:24 PM
HARARE— The U.N. World Food Program said it might have to scale back its efforts to ease food shortages in Zimbabwe as international funding for the exercise has fallen short. Zimbabwe -- once the breadbasket of southern Africa -- is entering the peak of its so-called "hunger season," which this year is affecting more than 2 million people.

http://www.voanews.com/content/reu-wfp-struggling-to-avert-starvation-in-zimbabwe/1841902.html

 

And time and time again people have to refute your lies and post links which actually prove that SU-25 could have reached those heights.

Shocking Analysis of the ‘Shooting Down’ of Malaysian MH17

July 30, 2014

http://www.anderweltonline.com/wiss...lysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/

 

Azov fighters are Ukraine's greatest weapon and may be its greatest threat

 

Actually the Su-25 are used to bomb the cities in Nuvorussiya, that's why they have been shot down so readily by the freedom fighters. I read that they cannot reach the height the airliner was at but that Kiev does have jets that can reach it, and they are the ones that were near the airliner.

What I would like to know is why Ukraine, Netherlands, Australia, and Belgium signed a non disclosure agreement? Isn't this self incriminatory, since these nations do not want the truth to be known until it is politically expedient to them?

By hiding a criminality, doesn't it mean that they too are committing criminal acts and are therefore criminals themselves? And if they are criminals, then they are capable of anything...which of course we are seeing with the genocide in the Middle East and Ukraine:

"...In the framework of the 4-country agreement signed on 8 August between Ukraine, the Netherlands, Belgium and Australia, information on the progress and results of the investigation of the disaster will remain classified.

This was confirmed at a briefing in Kiev under the auspices of the office of the Prosecutor General Yuri Boychenko. In his words, the results of the investigation will be published once completed only if a consensus agreement of all parties that have signed the agreement prevails..."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ca...lia-belgium-signed-a-non-disclosure-agreement

Here is a very investigative report on the shoot down of the airliner. What he doesn't mention at the end is the involvement of Burisma Holdings with Shell and that the Oligarch who owns it and the Minister of the Interior who he is connected to are wanted for war crimes in Ukraine.

[video=youtube_share;gWlAARb0fN4]http://youtu.be/gWlAARb0fN4[/video]

 

Still waiting for your evidence that this was the case