So Should We Round Up Christians?

Margot, you are right about your perception of Islam but you are only partially right. Your interactions with the majority of Muslims, as are mine, are with Muslims that follow the early Mohammad, but you need to understand that groups like ISIS are also following Mohammad's teachings. Also, you need to realize that religion, which I have no problems with, and politics, what I am concerned about, are one in the same in Islam and that groups like ISIS take this very seriously. Most Muslims coexist very well with host nations but the Muslims like ISIS will always arise as they too are following Mohammad's teachings. It may seem like it is illogical to Greek inspired Western sensibilities such as ours but it is not illogical in Islam.

 

"Progressives", Fabian Socialist. Communism by evolution instead of revolution.

 

To whom do you refer?

Y'see, what's so bothersome about whenever people say "Liberals want this and that", it's that it's intentionally vague, so as to avoid actually having to address any actual statements by actual people.

Humans don't have hive minds, in case that fact had eluded you. Who are the specific liberals to which you refer?

Also, while you're at it, which definition of "liberal" are you using? Are you using the real one, IE more akin to libertarianism, or are you using the nonsensical american definition that basically means "(*)(*)(*)(*)heads" whenever someone uses it?

It's impossible for anyone to make any argument against your claims if you can't actually be honest enough to specify what, and whom, it is you're decrying. Where are all these marxists in the US? What proposals for legislation have they laid out lately?

Am I a marxist? Is Margot?

 

The Church IS the Christian Doctrine. They used the Biblical texts to justify their doctrine.

 

Actually I think she was pointing out that deception and warfare are a lot older than Islam....and she'd be correct.

 

I will support your idiotic idea of rounding up Christians, deporting them, and whatever else you can dream up -- IF AND WHEN Christians start making videos of them kidnapping people and cutting their heads off. When Christians start demanding that everyone converts to Christianity or they must be killed, then and only then will they become as big a worldwide menace as Islam is. Until then, your silly little proposition is grounded in nothing more substantive than a barely-audible mental fart....

 

Christians been there done that... inquisitions....

 

Catholics following catholic doctrine. The illegitimacy of such behavior demonstrated with the Christian doctrine of the bible.

 

"Sunnis following sunni doctrine. The illegitimacy of such behavior demonstrated with the Muslim doctrine of the Quran".

Same argument.

 

Well........YOU.......can personally come out to WY.......and start with ME.
Let's see how that comes out.

 

Yes, and five hundred years ago, and more, there was warfare, persecution, and other injustices among other world religions -- even Hinduism and Buddhism!

But, today (TODAY), which major religion is the only one to demand conversion to it, or face death?! How many other major religions capture hostages and cut their heads off? Islam has revealed itself to be an intolerable menace in civilization, and it needs to be removed permanently, NOW.

Got anything at all that you can use to compare Christian atrocities with Islamo-Nazi atrocities during, say, the past 300 - 400 years? How about just during the past 30 years? Truth: there is no point of comparison. Christians might like for you to convert to their religion, but they sure as hell aren't going to kidnap you and cut your head off if you don't....

 

Well, except the Koran supports their actions

 

The Bible supports executing homosexuals and adulterers. Do I need to quote the scripture or are you familiar?

 

Christian have the new testament. "Let he is without sin cast the first stone"

 

Nevertheless, it's in the Bible.

 

Stories from the past with no bearing on today.

Ephesians 2
15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Hebrews 8
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Romans 10
4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

Romans 7
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

2 Corinthians 3
13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law(*)

 

Then why did you say this?:

 

Because Islam commands the Muslims to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite" the necks of the unbelievers,"until religion should only be for allah" and today, religion is not yet only for Allah

 

Actually the point to many of the Bible's storys is to illustrate a morality, like Aesop's fables.

But there will always be people who want to twist and turn things to give them the best advantage they can for power and control.

overall, the Bible does actually have some good morality in there.

But like all works of man, it is not perfect, contrary to popular belief.

 

..and the Bible says homosexuals and adulterers should be put to death. So why are Barney Frank, Rudy Giuliani, Rush Limbaugh and Bill Clinton still alive in a nation that, as Sarah Palin once said, "we would create law based on the God of the Bible and the 10 Commandments" and "we do base our lives, our values on the God of the Bible, the Old and the New Testament"?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2010/05/07/sarah-palin-on-national-day-prayer-controversy/

 

Yeah, I haven't heard anyone saying we should round up Muslims. And, really KM, you're asking if we should round up Christians because a Christian nutjob committed a hate crime.... with a BB gun? Do you know what a BB gun is? It's essentially an airsoft gun.




Why the faux outrage?

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I note that you couldn't find any specific posts that did so. But even if you did, wouldn't you be essentially doing the same thing? Criticizing all x for the acts of a few?

 

We should "round up" anyone and everyone who breaks the law or murders innocent folks simply because they disagree with a particular philosophical or religious outlook. I'm not at all a fan of the "gay agenda" but, as a Christian, I don't believe in killing gays simply because I don't like that lifestyle.

 

point is, we go after the religious fanatics, not the entire religion or there would be no Christianity as they have also down many evil things throughout history

Christians used to tie people up and slowly stretch them apart by all fours, as well as stone people to death.... pretty sad really for any religion

funny you mention Nazi 's, in the beginning Hitler had the support of the church and was raised Christian.....
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Christians have the new testament.

Ephesians 2
15 by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations.

Hebrews 8
13 By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.

Romans 10
4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.(*)

Romans 7
6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

2 Corinthians 3
13We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at it while the radiance was fading away. 14But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away.

Galatians 3 13Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree."

23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[h] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law(*)

 

You are not understanding. When muslims "fight", "kill" "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbeliever they are acting in accordance with their religion, in accordance with the dictates of the Koran and hadiths. They don't consider it evil.
When christians stoned people they were acting in direct contradiction to the instruction of christian doctrine and Jesus Christ himself.
"He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." Such actions are evil by christian standards found in the bible.