Ukraine Used Cluster Bombs, Evidence Indicates

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  1. Pronin24

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    According to the article, both sides have used them, and apparently with little reason in either case.

    Once again, this is the War Nerd's favorite type of conflict, one in which you can hate BOTH sides.

    Then again, this has historical precedent. In WWII the Ukrainian partisans fought both the Germans AND the Soviets, who both fought each other and them. Wonderful place.
     
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    Where rebels tossed those cluster bombs? If rebels had any, they could not throw them in Kiev, because they had no airplanes. Kiev used airplanes to drop cluster bombs to kill more people in Donetsk.
     
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    Cluster bombs are also deployed with the help of artillery. And the rebels are really accused of that. The thing is that ukrainian army used EVERYTHING they could. If they had nuclear weapons they would use it as well. Look what happened in Donetsk which was attacked with a ballistic missile "tochka U".
    [video=youtube;dZGTEMjGDP8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZGTEMjGDP8[/video]

    The maidans don't seem to understand that they are not planned for a european way of living. Noone is going to pay for them. So their destruction of their own country is their internal conflict and they would suffer from it for decades and centuries.
     
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    They use a lot of things, like tactical rockets for example. People who live there talk about rockets all the time, the last huge I know of was yesterday.

    [video=youtube;q1Bsx8dUZlc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Bsx8dUZlc[/video]

    [video=youtube;uJ69QBtaXEI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ69QBtaXEI[/video]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-21_Scarab
     
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    It is always fascinating to see people complain of "How" people are killed in warfare....but seldom "WHY".
     
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    The right of people to stay for their grounds is generally understandable. Men would make war anyway. The contradictions in Ukraine between people were growing for decades. In general I understand those antirussians who praise Bandera and Shukhevich. And I understand russians and ukrainians who were fighting against them for their state. The case is that these contradictions should have been initially solved politically in the parliament or in some affairs. E.g. there are lots of contradictions betweens chechens and russians. Not less and even much more than between eastern and western ukrainians. But somehow we managed to live together and find common grounds... Once the policy stops and the war starts there also are some fair play rules. It regards to the life of common people, pensioners, kids, women. Soldiers killing each other is ugly but understandable thing. If you have taken the gun you need to be ready for being shot. What is impossible to understand is killing of the innocent. And this is where the weapon choice makes a difference.
     
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    Oh, it had been posted already.
     
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    Many people did die during the American backed over throw of an elected government of Ukraine
     
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    Ukraine used cluster bombs, the rebels shot down a civilian airliner.
     
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    More will have to. So far there was attempts from the west to face the real problems, which are thus worsening day after day. Noone can stop the war now. It will last for decades.
     
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    God's dew
     
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    Fantastic idea; that way children in future decades can blow themselves up in the same way that the unexploded cluster bombs America left behind in South-East Asia are still killing and mutilating children there today. These are hideous, indiscriminate weapons. http://thediplomat.com/2010/12/vietnams-cluster-bomb-shadow/
     
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    Who cares? Russia earned it
     
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    And this, folks, is why people despise the American military. Not only are they hopelessly inept at winning wars, but they seem to spawn a 'special' sort of person.
     
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    Psssst . . . read up on British military history and be prepared to be flummoxed. For that matter the old Soviets did not exactly cover themselves in glory after WWII ended. So forth and so on.
     
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    So I guess his selective Russian taught reading skills forced him to skip the part where it says quote clearly that BOTH sides are using these weapons. Weird huh? I guess he also skipped the part where it said there was evidence that RUSSIA itself was firing these weapons across the border.
     
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    What war has America lost? Iraq? 1 million dead Iraqis vs. 4,500 American. Afghanistan? Lol, only a few thousand over a decade vs. dozens of taliban a day.

    Which war has America lost? How about the Russians losing to bin laden?
     
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    As a result of our victorious wars we produced ISIL. More glorious victories are coming. Have you been enlisted?
     
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    thank God we invaded Iraq.
     
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    No. That was a result of incompetence from our great liberal retard president. The war was an actual victory. Tell he took office
     
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    had he left 4,000 soldiers in Iraq under Iraqi legal jurisdiction, you would have called him a coward and a pansy
     
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    How ridiculous, the people of Nuvorussiya didn't have any planes. But of course what else can one expect from another Washington news source. :frustrated:
     

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