Ukraine Used Cluster Bombs, Evidence Indicates

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  1. Ronstar

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    the people of...where?

    no such country exists.
     
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    Are you referring to only leaving 4,000 troops or that they would have been under Iraqi legal jurisdiction? Because the later I am actually completely fine with. 4,000 wouldn't have been exactly the number I would have hoped for. But it would have been 4,000 times better then the whopping ZERO that he did leave.
     
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    You realize that cluster bombs can be fired from artillery and rockets right? And in fact via witness accounts it seems the majority of the bombs were launched via rocket/artillery fire, not war planes. Nice job showing your total lack of intelligence yet again.
     
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    Kiev doesn't care if Donbas is destroyed. It kept the wealthier suburbs intact since they were promised to the Maidan 'nationalists' as payment for their services. All Kiev wanted to do was change the ethnic composition of the area so they could stay in power, and also to hold on to it for the slate gas which is what Washington and the IMF want. The intent was to either kill the Russians or to force them to leave. Washington knows this and it not only doesn't care, it supports them as well...which makes my government no better than the Nazis.

    Where Washington differs from Nazi Germany is in its deception, since their policy does not conform with the majority of the American people, so they have to continuously spit out lies and propaganda to keep them in line.
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    What do you mean by 'we'? If you mean the U.S. I disagree. But do you mean the U.S.?:confused:
     
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    And once again you have no actual proof of any of this.
     
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    What witness accounts? The Maidan ones?
    :roflol:
     
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    Ummm... No. Did you not read the report? The witnesses were from the local populace of Donetsk. Lol, you should change that emote to someone with Down syndrome cause you have no reason to be laughing right bowl
     
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    That's like saying if I bang you on your head there is no proof I wanted to bang you on your head. The results are proof enough. Take a good look at them. It's not Lviv that's being bombed and ethnically cleansed, it's Nuvorussiya. Yesterday fifteen more civilians were killed in a residential area.

    Yeah go on tell me now it's the Russians doing it to themselves, just the way they set the fire in Odessa and began killing themselves.
     
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    Soooo.... No. You don't have any proof? K then. And who ever said that Russia was behind the Odessa massacre? Although come to think of it that does sound like something Putin would do. Just like that apartment building thing back when he invaded Georgia. Thanks for the idea.
     
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    This is what the report said:
    Oh so then it wasn't only Kiev that wanted to kill and ethnically cleanse the civilians in the Donbas area, it was the freedom fighters as well. Now I get it, they're really working for the CIA. Do the Russians know they're supporting CIA agents and not Russian freedom fighters? :wall:
     
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    Contrary to the impression given by the CIA paid press, it's not a new name. It's the name given to the area centuries ago by Russia, when they freed themselves from Poland and the Pope and reunited with the Tsar. It's the original name and they have now reclaimed it.
     
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    let us know when one single nation recognizes them.

    :roflol:
     
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    Yeah. You took one paragraph from the report that doesn't say who the witnesses were as your proof. Lol, you realize everyone has across to that report and if you keep reading just a little but more youll see your an idiot. Clap clap clap.
     
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    Yes, you lost. You achieved nothing. Victory isn't gained by the numbers of people killed but by the result you set out to achieve. Don't they teach grunts anything?

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    In what sense was Iraq a 'victory'? Do tell...
     
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    No such country as Ukraine existed either. That does not mean anything.
     
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    The place called Ukraine is in decay. The only solution would be division into two countries and this is what is going to happen, eventually.
     
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    Reminds me of the Yogoslaviya :frown:
     
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    Yes, I did enlist. Also, you didn't answer my questions.
     
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    The only "we" that you belong to is the Russian Federation and you're not fooling anyone.
     
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    What was the mission and entire point of the invasion of Iraq again? Oh yes. Kill Saddam, Check. Topple his government, check. Disband his army, check. Destroy and dismantle any weapons of mass destruction or programs he may have in order to prevent him from using said wmds, check. Objectives all accomplished. Id say that's a victory.
     
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    No, killing Saddam was not the purpose of the invasion. So, let's see; one million dead or displaced Iraqis, invading a nation which was no threat to you whatsoever, total destruction of its functioning infrastructure and economy, a failed attempt at imposing democracy on a nation which never asked for it, ongoing car bombs, murders and factional in-fighting, de-stabilising the entire region resulting in the disaster that you're now attempting to do something about. I'd say that's a complete failure, and many would agree.
     

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