Predicting end of Republicans

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by RedDirtWalker, Oct 28, 2014.

  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You mean dems support taxing more to spend more and republicans support spending what you take in such as the sequestration. You are not fooling anyone.
     
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    So to summarize your thesis Democracy is doomed once the citizens actually start to exercise their constitutional rights. Curiosity compels me to ask if you have a solution or a governing system you prefer?
     
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    Yeah, but there's no way to do it. There's no way to return to a cultural values system because in order to do that you have to promote unequivocal standards based on honor, integrity, duty to community and nation, self reliance, self sacrifice, and so forth and so on . . . the very standards that leftwingers in control of the nation's public educational systems refuse to have anything to do with. So since it is no longer possible to inculcate meaningful community standards that promotes the culturally healthy best interests of our nation we are doomed. It's just a matter of when we fall, not if.
     
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    Way to ignore the main substance of my post, including the part where I proved your claims about taxation are dead wrong.

    GOP likes to claim credit for sequestration, except when it's painful, at which point they say it was all Obama's idea. Never mind that sequestration may be the dumbest possible way to cut spending -- indeed, was deliberately designed to be dumb in order to force Congress to come up with a sensible deficit-reduction plan. That didn't happen because the GOP was incapable of making hard decisions -- i.e., they refused to even consider pairing spending cuts with targeted tax increases. Their detachment from reality put sequestration into effect.

    And the concept of "spending what you take in" demonstrates economic illiteracy. With government, you determine what services you're going to provide, and then apply taxes to bring in enough revenue to pay for it. You don't look at whatever tax revenue you happen to get (by magic, apparently) and then design a budget based on this found revenue.
     
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    That is what I said if you read the entire post. The R's created it. Passed it in Mass. And then let the D's pass their plan while complaining about it to fool their base.
    Guess what, it worked. They got their legislation passed and didn't have to take the blame for it.
    Now, when the R's get in control again, how much you want to bet it won't be repealed. Ever. It will be enhanced. Probably not by R's as that would tick off the clueless base.
     
  6. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because we all know not spending more is a painful cut for democrats.
     
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    "Democrats believe in rights. Democrats believe that you have certain rights as citizens, taking it as far as the right to health care. Republicans believe in privilege. Republicans believe that you can have only that which you can afford or earn."

    Whoever wrote this is either a flaming Communist or a useful idiot.
     
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    This happens almost every election cycle. Whatever the minority party is cast as its doom. But the Republicans and Democrats are harder to be rid of than an advanced roach infestation. They will be around for a long time to come and unfortunately so will the Democrats. These parties need each other to maintain their stranglehold on the country.
     
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    Maybe it had a little something to do with how government is run. The house
    proposes a Budget then passes.Then it's the Senates turn to submit and pass a
    budget.However Harry Reid Belligerently refuse to even debate a budget let alone
    pass one. And the Yearly Presidential Budget { a Constitutional mandate } that
    Obama submitted for a vote was Zilch. Not One member of the Senate in 2 years
    voted for Obama's annual budget.Check it out.
    That would be like 99-0 in year 2013 and 97-0 { Teddy Kennedy was absent } in 2012.
    Obama also saw fit to submit each years budget LATE. Exactly as his practice of showing
    up Late for any announced Press briefing of special announcement.
    The Senate is required by law to produce a budget.For 3 years running Senator
    Reid belligerently refused to.
    Congressman Ryans House budget didn't fare well enough in the Minoirity
    Senate with a 41-58 vote.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Agreed, but who passes laws that often infringe in ones own personal life and choices. Hate to break it to you but neither Party is any better the difference is how they attack our freedoms. Gonna make an Inde of you yet:)
     
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    I pretty much lean indie anyway. Actually took a couple of tests earlier this morning and they all came up libertarian. Take that however you want.
     
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    Obama wanted to get people back to work??? Pray tell, HOW??? He only spent around 24 trillion dollars in the last 6 3/4 years so where are all the JOBS???? Where do I get my figures??? On the average we have given him 2 1/2 Trillion a year for 6 3/4 years equals 16.8 trillion. Then he borrowed 7 trillion more. Oh, the shovel Ready jobs that weren't so shovel ready??? Please tell us what he did with that 750 billion dollars. The Green energy he kept dumping money into that kept going belly up??? The Electric cars nobody wanted to buy and could not afford??? All the illegals he not only allowed into this country but helped BRING into this country??? I could go on all night but what's the use with a Obama cool aid drinker.
     
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    Sorry, not buying the b.s. The R's did not "let the Dems pass it" on the federal level. They tried like hell to stop it. They NEVER wanted anything like this on the federal level. What may work in one homogenous state is another matter entirely when it comes to the entire US.

    You say "Now, when the R's get in control again, how much you want to bet it won't be repealed. Ever. It will be enhanced. Probably not by R's as that would tick off the clueless base." That's just insane. First you say the R's will get in control again, and when that happens it won't be repealed but enhanced, but then say probably not by R's. If the R's are in control, they'd be the only ones who could "enhance" it.

    Either way, the bottom line is just because a think tank makes a proposal, it doesn't mean it's a done deal or that it actually got major support on a congressional level from a particular party. That's what "think tanks" do, brainstorm and offer a bunch of ideas. In this case, the only "R" who went anywhere with it was a governor of one state, not a member of congress. Sorry, but congressional Dems and the President own the ACA as it currently stands, and as such, it doesn't really resemble the original think tank proposal all that much anymore to boot.
     
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    Knowing full well they couldn't. Dog and pony. Only partisans believe they really didn't want it. Sure some didn't. But overall, they wanted it. After all, it benefits a major industry, insurance, who contributes a lot to campaigns of both parties. So don't be fooled any more.

    Correct, the R's won't enhance it, but they won't repeal it. But in the future it will be enhanced. But you never know, Reagan increased SS taxes, so one never knows what a R will do they may enhance it.

    They didn't need to show, dog and pony, any support at the congressional level. They knew it was going to pass, so why would they? Gotta keep the braindead hacks believing that they really didn't want it.
     
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    LOL, just goes to show everyone's entitled to an opinion, for what THAT's worth. Statements like "only partisans believe", "overall, they wanted it", with NO evidence cited to support said opinion, and plenty of evidence AGAINST that actual opinion, like recorded votes, documented statements, etc etc, but of course, YOU know the real truth. Okaaaayyyyyy.....sure.
     
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    Close. When you truly become an Inde you will not concern yourself so much with Party affiliations but take each issue individually no matter who is on your side or against you, and be more interested in what is good for the Nation. Always be true to yourself and you will never be disappointed.
    I lean just a hair to the left of dead center on ever test I have ever taken, my stands on different issues tend to balance everything out. Funny thing is most people land somewhere fairly near center, only the rare duck ends up out on the extreme edges, it is just that on boards such as this that they are overly represented because of their need to spread their ideas more than the average person. Always remember that places such as this are not a good representation of the American People, if it were we would be far more trouble than we already are.
     

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