U.S. and EU hail pro-West election outcome in Ukraine, Russia guarded

We're talking about government soldiers. If you do not understand.

 

Us and them..... Are you on damage control?

The truth can not compete with the western propaganda machine.

 

The west will have their new world order! Coming soon to a town near you.
Rigged elections, police terrorism, and taxation with out representation. The bankers want to enslave the world through taxation and debt. America is a prime example of the world bank's plan for your neck of the woods. America has a debt that can never be paid. They are at the mercy of the bank. If they don't do as the bankers want, they will crush the economy and send them into a great depression. The last countries with out a world bank will either give in to the bank or America and it's allies will be knocking at your front door
(Iran, North Korea) The bankers make debt look so appealing, fancy cloths, fast cars, big homes, and oh the toys... and an all round better life. This is why people want to migrate to America. It is all just an illusion...because if the bank decides to raise rates and demand payment for the debt very few people would be able to pay their fair share of the national debt. No wonder Americans say they are fighting for freedom. That is somewhat true. If they don't fight for the bankers then they will take away their plush lifestyle's.

Money rules all, it is a God in the eyes of the few. Votes can be bought with this God. Whole countries of people can be bought. Man is corrupt and can be corrupted by this God.

 

UFO forum is down again?

 

https://www.libertariannews.org/2013/04/25/rolling-stone-conspiracy-theorists-were-right-the-biggest-price-fixing-scandal-ever/
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425

Only morons believe in aliens. So either you are a paid propagandist, or you do so ignorantly.

 

you are even here the leaders, 10 millions of your people vote for Nazis (LDPR) more then 20 years. try compare those numbers with Ukraine

 

according credibility of your links you are one of them, maybe even big foot section moderator?

 

So once again the paid Russians have turned a post into the same back n forth argument they always do.

Back to the point....

52% sounds about right for turnout. I am surprised it wasn't higher with all that is going on, but then again with what is going on, I guess I am not surprised many weren't able to vote.

I hate to say but I do tend to like systems with more than two parties

 

Define aliens?

You really don't then with all of those billions of stars and tens of billions of planets, that there is no other life anywhere in the universe?

Damnit..... They got me! Sorry sorry, back on topic

 

i did ask the moderators about Kremlin paid trolls activity here, they said : PF is a place for everyone and "we are for the fair discussions" ...how its possible to have a fair discussion with paid trolls they did not answer to me ...

 

Its only deemed by you to be a mockery of democracy because they didn't vote the way you wanted. These elections were internationally monitored so you can moan about it all you like. Its clear the Ukrainians don't want you back so you'll just have to either accept that or subjugate them by invading

 

+1......

 

Don't you like the forum? Why would you want them to get rid of you?

 

there is one good thing about them, and that is they have a very low tolerance for being proven wrong, and even opposed with countering ideas and facts.

 

It can't compete if people are fools. But not everyone is, they saw what happened to those opposing the Washington supported junta:

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Of course, they hail. This is why they had organized and executed that violent coup in Kiev and subsequently supported Euro-Maidans' government with its neo Nazi members. The ne- Nazi did the dirty job and they still do the dirty job in Ukraine, which somehow is overlooked by western media. However, this is still not that happy ending EU and USA were counting on.

 

Litwin, LDPR has nothing to do with nazi.

 

Despite your endless propaganda to the contrary the great bulk of Ukrainians have rejected pro Moscow parties as I had predicted they would months ago. Unlike with Crimea these elections were internationally monitored and not conducted at the point of a gun. You either accept the result of the democratic process or you don't. The people have spoken

PS. Just to pre empt your predictable response I couldn't care a jot about what Kerry or Obama think about it either, unless you can prove they have been stuffing the ballot boxes of course

 

Flogger, if there was no one representing the Russian speaking population, who would these Russian speakers vote for? A little logic here. Besides the area of the country that voted for Yanukovich the last time was the Donbas and they didn't vote. Not only that but Poroshenko had passed a law stating that anyone who was with Yanukovich's party was not allowed in the government.

So again who would the people who opposed Poroshenko vote for? The only other choice they had was to vote for the fanatic 'nationalists', and no one wanted them. Basically it was a sham election.

 

Even had the entire populations of the disputed regions voted to a man for pro Russian parties (highly unlikely) the result would still have been an overwhelming win for pro Western parties. Only some 10% of Ukrainians live in the disputed regions. The bulk of Ukrainians (and even some of the Russian speakers) don't want Russia back under any circumstances and they have made that plain at the ballot box

Why ? Because they didn't vote for what you've claimed for months that they wanted and have made you look bad ? I've been to Ukraine a number of times and knew that this would be the result when put to the test and I said so on many occasions. Face it you got it wrong

I think you should now take that up with those from the OSCE who were monitoring those elections because they disagree with you too

http://www.euractiv.com/video/ukraine-election-free-and-fair-mep-delegation-says-309558

 

Here's the election map of 2012 before the junta began throwing the pro Russian candidates in trash bins. Ukraine looks pretty evenly divided to me.





Of course if you're getting your news from the wrong source....

 

There are many political parties represented here. Since the Russian interventions its hardly surprising that there is a surge in Ukrainian nationalism and a shift to the West. I don't buy this bull that Western cash stuffed those ballot boxes. Its Russian actions which have driven this latest election result not Western ones

What you mean like straight out of the mouths of OSCE monitors in the linked video ?

 

Okay, then. Since you want to insult me and my feelings for both countries that I love Ukraine and Russia. I take it as a personal insult.

 

LDPR is a pure Nazis. check out Hitler´s Polish plans and LDPR:s Ukrainian plans , can you find any difference?

 

+1.........