More Proof: Liberal Cities have the Most Inequality

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  1. godisnotreal

    godisnotreal Well-Known Member

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    Society is forcing them, because if all the wealth is owned by a few rich people, then the only way to survive, is to serve these rich people.


    Well that's the problem. The vast majority of Americans are these "low-life uneducated government teat suckers" (your words, not mine). Fact is, most Americans do not have an engineering degree. And so they wouldn't even be able to get a job engineering and building these yachts. They'd be unemployed. That's why your "trickle down" economics simply doesn't work.

    conservative ideas also brought us environmental destruction, wage slavery, suppressing the vote, and denying civil rights. should I go on?
     
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    Another post that confuses Republican and Democratic with Liberal and Conservatives.
     
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    Careful , liberals enjoy throwing the racist word around when they are challenged . They will tell you how helpless the poor and minorities are , and are baffled you are against more redundant programs, and why in the world you insist on voter ID , blah , blah , blah !!!! Liberals are the worst hypocrites .
     
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    Thanks for the troll.
     
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    Lol... this is why conservatives don't do "science" very well. Remember, "Correlation Does Not Prove Causation." The Atlantic speculates: "In general, richer cities have less affordable housing." The article then goes on to imply all source of nonsense that the data, which comes from a piece titled "Blue Markets Face Bigger Housing Challenges Than Red Markets," fails to support.

    For one, the Kolko piece includes Greenville, SC (population 61,397) in its list. That was the first indication of the less-than-scholarly use of data.

    The primary issue(s) is that the Kolko piece simply breaks down the data to red and blue. The Atlantic article extracts that correlation and expands it to imply causation. Both pieces leave out several VERY important factors, however, such as population density (likely the primary reason why price /sq mile is so much higher). In fact, I went ahead and looked up some of the data, it was pretty evident that both articles were simply shaping the stats to fit a not-so-subtle political agenda:

    "Red" Cities:
    Avg Population: 402,368.8
    Avg Population Density (per sq mi): 1,821.085

    "Blue" Cities:
    Avg Population: 1,707,580.4
    Avg Population Density (per sq mile): 11,269.77

    SHOCKER! "Median Asking Price Per Square Foot" is likely more related to the respective population density than rather the city is "red" or "blue."

    We could even look up the median income in these areas, and I'm sure that at least some of us can guess which areas are likely to be on the high end.

    For the record, I got the pop and pop density info from Wiki to prove a point, not to write a scholarly article or pretend that I found an amazing correlation in the data.


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    Key Housing Data in the Reddest Metros List:
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    Knoxville, TN = 178,874 1,815 per sq mile
    Tulsa, OK = 398,121 2,044/sq mi
    Greenville, SC = 61,397 2,361.4/sq mi
    Oklahoma City, OK = 579,999 1,000/sq mi
    Fort Worth, TX = 792,727 2,166.0/sq mi
    Salt Lake City, UT = 191,180 1,666/sq mi
    Colorado Springs, CO = 439,886 2,242.5/sq mi
    Birmingham, AL = 212,237 1,415.85/sq mi
    Jacksonville, FL = 821,784 1,100.1/sq mi
    Bakersfield, CA = 347,483 2,400/sq mi
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    Avg Population: 402,368.8
    Avg Population Density (per sq mi): 1,821.085


    Key Housing Data in the Bluest Metros List:
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    San Francisco, CA = 837,442 17,867/sq mi
    Oakland, CA = 406,253 7,004/sq mi
    New York, NY-NJ = 8,405,837 27,778.7/sq mi
    Detroit, MI = 681,090 5,142/sq mi
    San Jose, CA = 1,000,536 17,987/sq mi
    Los Angeles, CA = 3,884,307 8,282/sq mi
    Honolulu, HI = 390,738 5,574/sq mi
    Washington, DC = 646,449 10,528/sq mi
    Fort Lauderdale, FL = 170,747 4,761/sq mi
    Seattle, WA = 652,405 7,774/sq mi
    ------------------------------------------------
    Avg Population: 1,707,580.4
    Avg Population Density (per sq mile): 11,269.77
     
  6. Rainbow Crow

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    Correlation is never causation when someone doesn't like what it says :) As I've said many times in this thread, this is a universal trend as to all studies on this matter, not an outlier. The inequality reaches into every area even when adjusting for income differences or housing cost differences. The details can be poured over as much as people have energy to do it but the bottom line is abundantly clear.
     
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    Reaganis/voodoo causes the still growing wealth gap. It's not liberals' fault the megarich live in urban areas and blue states are more prosperous. Yes, there's plenty of racism everywhere. And discriminated against blacks stick together and go where assistance for the poor is greatest.
     
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    Yeah I'm not going to take that as much of a good source for your claim. You say 7/10. Last election Florida went to Mittens, meaning if you're going to say Liberal states, it's more 6/10 then 7/10. That being said, then you have to take into account the individual districts. After all if we want to only look at states, then we can also say that the Republican states take more in through welfare then they pay.

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    Kind of like how you have done so far?
     
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    Yep. Look at LA. Chinatown, Koreatown, Little Armenia, etc. Every little ethnic group segregated into its own little place. Meanwhile in Texas, all of my neighbors are different colors.


    People who are embarrassed about their own flaws will often project them onto others as a way of making them easier to deal with. That way they can lash out at them without internalizing them. They essentially use someone else as the whipping boy for all of their own wrongdoings.
     
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    Why would you care what they donate to?

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    Society is forcing them? :roflol: We're done

    Move to China and get a real taste of what government you liberals will end up with
     
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    I guess the people who make killings off the Yacht industry were forced to take that good, hard cash for their efforts :roflol: Long live Capitalism and opportunity for all :)
     
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    Please do go on and Don't Forget if ya aint got a JOB and you are BROKE why you can just "Magically" pack up & MOVE to North Dakota for Oil Field jobs
     
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    Isn't it unbelievable what some people post on this forum. The comments that say, "in a free society of capitalism, companies are forcing Americans to work for them".

    This perfectly describes those ridiculous posts:

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    Did I say I cared? I just don't think tithing because your church requires it is a great sign of generosity.
     
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    I must not have had enough coffee yet because the bottom line isn't clear to me. How about stating it clearly for my poor bleary eyes and brain.
     
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    And we can identify a deep thinker because their ideas can be summarized on a postage stamp.
     
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    Requires it? Are you saying they are forced to give?

    What other people do with their money is of no concern to me

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    Or a $100 dollar bill
     
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    truth hurts .
     
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    So you're retort is simply to post some emoticons? Interesting. I guess that's what passes for conservative reasoning these days...
     
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    You mean to tell me cities with dense populations and limited housing have higher rents? Since when did this become a conservative-liberal problem? In America, us smarter folks call that economics 101.
     

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