terrorists using cars to kill people

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this is sad, sure there will be many copycats by wannabe terrorists

    http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...n-Jerusalem-in-suspected-terror-attack-380834

    "At least 14 people were injured, three of them seriously, in the attack which occurred at two separate locations near the light rail in the capital. "

    not sure how we can prevent it though... just gonna be something we have to react to after the fact, I mean we can't ban cars

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  2. Regular Joe

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    Well sure. We can enact "car free zones". Oh wait. That would only mean that law abiding people would be out of their cars, making it easier for the terrorist.
    OK. We can just put up signs, reminding them that it's against the law to run people over. Help me out here...
     
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    No hi-cap cars. Allow at most four cylinders (no one needs more).
     
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    Cars don't just drive off on their own and run people over.

    The sad thing is, if, hypothetically, car ownership was not as common and mundane as it is, I have no doubt that anyone who possessed a car would be viewed with paranoid suspicion.

    I could point out parallels between this and so many other things. A terrorist or criminal uses X to kill innocent people. Then anyone who has an X is viewed as a potential criminal. That is, unless X is a common part of most people's daily lives. No one was talking about banning pressure cookers, for example.
     
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    really nice thinking
    but police should be more intelligent
     
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    What do you suggest the police could do?
    There is no way to anticipate and prevent an attack by car.
    If I was cynical, which I am, I would call it an ingenious assassination method, You can even make it look like an accident.
     
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    What? Today's four cylinder cars have more power than that you realize after making a statement like that. Some 4 bangers have more power than the V-8's of years ago. I do not know what you mean by hi-cap cars . . . please explain.

    Everyone knows the damage that Tim McVeigh's truck did. In America you can not keep trucks out of crowded urban areas and how can you think banning trucks will fly in a country that depends on trucks.

    Imagine the chaos in any large American city if you 'banned' them from the city streets.
     
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    As soon as police are on to a new delivery source for terror, the rats are already devising a new method of delivery. Certainly not the result of unintelligent police as you point to.
     
  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, sadly terrorism is going to become a crime that we can only react to after the fact in most cases, as long as there is people willing to give up their life to do people harm, they are pretty much unstopable, they don't do as much damage as a plane into a building, but with today's media, they could create a lot of fear sadly...

    I guess eventually they run out of people in their groups that are suicidal, i mean how many can their really be, not many I would imagine

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  10. AlpinLuke

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    And it can be also well cheap:

    a terrorist doesn't need to buy a car, there is the eventually that the bad guy steals it just before of the attack; furthermore to do such an action the terrorist doesn't need a driving license [well, I could say that if he is not able to drive properly the attack could be even more effective !].
     
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    Reasoning in general, I wonder why former great terror organizations didn't use this strategy.

    For example: Italian Communists of the Red Brigades.

    Reminding their kind of training and operative behaviors, actually a car attack exposes the "terror driver" to the risk [from the perspective of the terror organization] to be captured by police. Imagine a crash in which he is wounded and he passes out [without time to kill himself like a good old kamikaze].

    This would expose the entire cell and for extension the organization to the risk of investigative visibility.

    Better to put a bomb [Red Brigades did this, when they exposed themselves in military direct actions they were sure to succeed, like when they kidnapped Moro].

    So, from the perspective of intelligence and security authorities this strategy could even help [may be they are making a mistake].

    Clear: police should be requested to try and capture those "terror drivers" alive ...
     
  12. PatrickT

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    I wonder if the brilliant government has sent out warnings to driving schools to watch for people who want to learn to go really fast but aren't interested in learning to park.
     
  13. Capitalism

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    We should outlaw cars.

    See how people with guns feel now?

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    Mmmm... That depends, if they have already killed someone and plan on killing others put them down.

    If my dog kills somebody it has to be put down and I have to pay a fine, why not do the same to their families?
     
  14. AlpinLuke

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    If you can capture them, you could discover something about their eventual organization. It's clear that in case, without other possibilities to stop a "terror driver", a sniper has to kill the subject to end the terrorist attack. This is evident.
     
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    That's what I'm saying, if they arn't on their rampage yet, capture, torture, then drop them in a ditch once you have all the information you need.

    One of the few reasons I respect the Chechnyans, they don't believe criminals should have all the nice things America does.

    Terrorist are beheaded with AK's there after they have been "interrogated".

    Pedophiles as well. (I have 0 problems with that.)

    Murderers? You guessed it.

    Sorry if that makes me look like a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty person but some people don't deserve the rights they are given.
     
  16. AlpinLuke

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    Moderation is useless when you deal with similar "gentlemen". Let's say that in Italy we did it we more "style".

    I can mention an example: in December 1969, while the Republic was beginning to face Red Terrorism, an anarchic fell "accidentally" from the window of a high floor of a police station, dieing ... according to the investigations, police was interviewing him ...
     
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    We need better car control laws. People should be able to sue the car companies for flooding the streets with cars. Kids can easy get their hands on them.
     
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    I don't seeing anything wrong with that, Bill Ayers should have been thrown from the empire state building to be made an example of.
     
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    I think we need key safes for all responsible drivers and to have heavy fines and prison penalties for any car owner whose keys fall into the wrong hands. That'll solve all our problems /sarcasm
     
  20. FreshAir

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    you mean see how people without guns feel now don't you, that would be criminals and those with mental issues we take those rights away from today

    I do not agree with that either, as it's a right, not a privilege, just like free speech and freedom of religion
     

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