Putin: "US Wants To Subdue Russia"

Absolute B.S!

Putin is completely aware the U.S. and NATO have absolutely ZERO intentions of trying to invade Russia.

Yeah....like after the U.S. spent $300 Billion and we have U.S. MILITARY WEAPONS DESTRUCTION TEAMS IN RUSSIA RIGHT NOW....still doing the JOB....after all that and spending money to help the Russian Economy like we have any intention of invading Russia? HA!

Putin is an IDIOT!

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You mean nations?





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Yes, Vladimir Putin, presumably, would prefer "peace," just as long as his expansionist aims go unobstructed. (Adolf Hitler, in the late 1930s, could have said the same thing.)

Would you care to elucidate, please?

While you are at it, you might also want to explain just how it is that Putin had the moral authority to gobble up Crimea last March; how he has the moral authority to intimidate the rest of Ukraine now (and possibly move soon to absorb it); and how he has the moral authority to try to bring NATO nations into Russia's orbit (e.g. Poland, Estonia, Latvia, and/or Lithuania--which many observers believe to be next on this ex-KGBer's list).

 

"War is a mere continuation of politics by other means." -- Carl von Clausewitz, a nineteenth-century Prussian military theorist

 

Russia is a weak nation and therefore does not pose any serious threat. The Hitler analogy is becoming tiresome, frankly. There is no new Cold War despite the propaganda to the contrary. You are right to say that Putin had no moral authority to gobble up Crimea. But also, the West had no moral authority to instigate a coup that resulted in the deposing of a democratically elected, if incompetent and corrupt, president that sparked Putin's defensive actions in Crimea in the first place. Moreover, the elections that led to the installation of Yanukovych's successor and U.S stooge also had no legitimacy. But hey, we'll forget about any notions of legitimacy just so long as the outcomes of sham elections, under the guise of democracy, meet with our ideological approval.

 

Germany, in the late 1930s, was also rather weak--Hitler had managed to convince the world that it was much stronger, militarily, than it actually was--but it managed to created quite a lot of havoc, nonetheless.

You may, indeed, consider it "tiresome"; but I have noticed no serious effort on your part to refute it...

It seems rather odd, then, that Vladimir Putin seems even more anti-Western that Nikita Khrushchev or Leonid Brezhnev ever was.

This sounds very much like the intemperate (and ill-considered) rhetoric of the hard left.

As I was just saying...

 

Well, I suppose that anyone who is entirely bereft of any sensible (or even sentient) answer may consider an ad hominem attack the next best thing...

 

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The professional criminals we call "National political leaders" are NOT friends with the Saudis.

They are contract employees.

They are also traitors,but since they are the ones that control the police and the courts,who is ever going to arrest them? That's what makes them the big bucks. The people that bribe them know they can deliver.

 

The only people the Arabs hate and mistrust more than the Jews are other Arabs.

Which is why Israel will end up being the "Switzerland of the Muddle East" when all the dust settles. The ultimate "King of a United Arabia" and the Princes that manage the territories and tribes will need someplace to safely stash their cash where it can't be reached by any enemies,and they damn sure aren't going to trust a Arab from another tribe to protect their money. This is where the Jews come in. The one thing they are most known for doing is managing money,and for the most part they have a reputation for being honest bankers. Since they will handle everyone's money,no one will dare attack them and bring the other tribes down on their own heads.

 

Wasn't that a dance from the 60's that had song lyrics with everyone "doing the Wah,Wahabbi..."?

IIRC,it wasn't popular for very long because people in the US didn't like seeing fat old men dancing with little boys and goats.

 

You are clearly insane. While I am opposed to the use of drugs to treat behavior problems,I think in your case they would be beneficial.

 

Like when a drunk attacks people. The police have no interest in humiliating the drunk, they just want to reduce the threat.




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Jews,as well as Arabs own western banks,and people that own western banks own western politicians.

As for the whole Arab/Jew thing,that's just to keep the unwashed so busy hating someone else they don't pay any attention to what their own tribal leaders are doing.

For example,at one time,and maybe even now,King Abdullah was the largest individual owner of Citi-Bank stock. Which means BY DEFINITION that he had Jewish business partners. Do any of you honestly think any of the Jewish bankers/investors involved in Citi-Bank didn't know who he was or that he was Arab royalty?

Gee,you almost wonder why this is never mentioned in either Saudi Arabia or Israel,huh?

Or even NYC.

sounds like another anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.[/QUOTE]

 

OK,you have finally written something I am in total agreement with

 

Depends how or what one perceives as a threat. The US and its vassal states pretend Russia to be a threat to their hegemony. I don't see it that way. To me it looks much more like an attempt from the West to antagonize and challenge Russia. Putin, so far, has only reacted to the West's provocations in a self-protecting way. It is the West that is aggressive and has violated agreements with Russia not to expand NATO further east, but that is exactly what they are doing, encroaching further and further on Russia.

Here are some excerpts from Information Clearing House (ICH):

November 23, 2014 "ICH" - There are clear signs that a major war is about to break out in Ukraine: A war actively promoted by the NATO regimes and supported by their allies and clients in Asia (Japan) and the Middle East (Saudi Arabia). The war over Ukraine will essentially run along the lines of a full-scale military offensive against the southeast Donbas region, targeting the breakaway ethnic Ukraine-Russian Peoples Republic of Donetsk and Lugansk.

NATO’s virulent hostility to Russian President Putin was on full display at the G20 meeting in Australia: NATO-linked presidents and prime ministers, especially Merkel, Obama, Cameron, Abbott, and Harper’s political threats and overt personal insults paralleled Kiev’s growing starvation blockade of the besieged rebels and population centers in the south-east. Both the G20’s economic threats against Russia and the diplomatic isolation of Putin and Kiev’s economic blockade are preludes to NATO’s Final Solution – the physical annihilation of all vestiges of Donbas resistance, popular democracy and cultural-economic ties with Russia.

What will Putin do?
What reaction do YOU expect?
He is doomed if he does nothing.
If he fights against NATO, which includes the USA, he might risk an all-out war and lose, perhaps.
Will the West really drive it to that?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article40305.htm

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/11/23/war-ukraine-natos-final-offensive/

 

... because it has invaded the Ukraine and seized it's territory.





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True. But why?

 

Because that's what wolfs do.




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yep, Russia is getting their ships just as you said.

 

Not overtly, but they are still trying to destablize his country and get him ousted from office even though the Russian majority supports his policies.

Putin may be many things, but an idiot is definitely not one of them. Underestimating your foe is a hallmark of neocon foreign policy.

 

I mean anyone who infringes on the natural right of individuals to live and labor on the land.

 

I know you are, but what am I?

Don't really care. Your approval is the last thing I'm worried about.

And you don't actually agree with it in principle. Everything you've said or intimated thus far indicates that you are perfectly fine with meddling in the affairs of Europe.

 

Pretty funny in a sad,sad sort of way.

 

What's sad is your inability to produce a cogent and relevant response to other people's arguments. Makes me wonder why you even waste your time coming to a political forum.