Does anybody think that BOYS like Michael Brown are real victims?

Because of whites blacks are held back from going to school and getting and education. Because of whites blacks are forbidden to wear belts causing their pants to be around their knees making it hard to get a good job. Because of white not allowing them to learn English, blacks have to learn a sling way of talking that doesn't translate to well paying jobs. Because of white blacks ridicule other blacks that try to better themselves. Because of white blacks are forced to listen to and idealize rappers that are gangsters and thugs. Because of whites blacks have to vote democratic for decades with no results other than more of the same. No change here.
Most of all because of white blacks have to kill each other.

 

Your numbers are misleading because at any one time about 10M Black boys are in jail and can't assault white people. If these men were on the streets those numbers would ten times higher.

But it is the Blacks that fret each time they leave their baby momma's crib to do a drug deal or try to sneak over to they other baby momma's pad that a white cop will see them and start shooting at them as the run with their hands in the air.

Black boys can't raise their hands over their heads - as evidenced by Brown putting his hand in his waist band - because their pants will fall off.

If Brown's pants weren't about to fall off he might have been able to run at Wilson a little faster but having loose pants wasn't the worse decision Brown made that day. Thinking that Wilson was too big a p***y to shot him was.

To answer the question: Yes Brown was a victim of a Black culture that focuses way too much on being victims instead of creating prosperity for themselves and their kids. Then they burn the stores of Black men who are responsible and doing the right thing.

 

Physical evidence shows Treyvon was on top of Zimmerman on the ground when shot.

 

Black leaders and the DOJ need to pick out a REAL white on black hate crime next time. That way they won't be caught trying to manufacture one where none exists like the last couple of embarrassing efforts

Hell, since Al Sharpton and other black leaders routinely infer the existence of a huge, genocidal white cop killing black kid epidemic across America, it shouldn't be all that hard to find a REAL case to pounce upon. That way the evidence and eye witness accounts won't make them look like the real racists in the situation (for a change).

 

You probably don't act like your son's best friend even though you might be. You let him know you are his parent first and foremost. And you appropriately reward and punish your son as necessary. And your relationship with your son is such that he can be honest with you about what is going on in his world. And when all is said and done, your son knows you will always be his best friend no matter what.

 

You obviously didn't watch it then. They saw Martin on top of Zimmerman pinning him down beating him. That is all that was needed to support self defense.

 

Easy. They grow up to be Ben Carsons and Mia Loves.

Blacks have the exact same opportunities as whites. Perhaps more because of Affirmative Action. But do they take hold of it and run with it? Nope! They rob and rough up small business owners and charge at cops.

People like that worthless 0bama could make it so much better, but he'd rather fuel the flames. Very, very sad.

 

Wrong.

The main witness identified the clothing and the skin color.

 

So, if you read it, please, say where

 

The cause of black violence, criminality is the lack of a nuclear family and poverty. Poverty tends to create criminality, and the break down of the family helps to sustain some of it.

Poverty is built into capitalism, for capitalism is just a means to distribute limited resources, even when there are enough resources today to go around in America. So capitalism creates poverty, and poverty creates crime and violence. And the lack of a nuclear family maximizes it.

 

Actually there is quite a bit of similarity. Both demonstrate in the black community a propensity for violence, a belief of indestructibility, the I can do what I want to anyone and not face the consequences. Black on white crime (remember people thought of Zimmerman as white as did Martin that night, recall the white honky talk with his girl friend on the phone. The similar narrative that "well the injuries weren't bad enough for him to defend himself". That no matter that both Brown and Martin instigated their assaults, threatened someone with serious bodily harm or death are protrayed as the victims with no sympathy for the actual victims and in fact malice towards them even after justice was served and both those victims were acting in self defense.

So yes this is just more of the pattern of violent crime and disregard of the law and other law abiding citizens being committed by especially young black males and that has been further demonstrated by the riots and looting and crime that followed the decision.

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We have a trial and the evidence presented which affirmed Martin was the attacker.

 

False, they saw and heard quite a bit which you could never refute. And then of course your fallacious claims Zimmerman violated the assault and stalking laws of the state of Florida which you still maintain to this day. So I think the rest of us know more about this than you.

Both Martin and Brown were products of this dysfunctional black society that condones and even promotes such violence and now we are paying for that they paid for it with their lives.

 

Well, I think it's more of a general statement about crime in America and the conditions that cause it. As far as the Ferguson thing goes, it's hard to say. Obviously Michael Brown had an attitude problem to say the least. Walking right down the middle of the street and then getting mad when a cop tells you to move because that's a dumb thing to do is not a sign of a cool head or a happy individual. But if we're going to talk about race and crime at all, I'd like to keep it logical and relevant instead of things devolving into the low IQ folks coming in trying to tell us that black people are innately bad and inferior. We don't need to pretend there isn't a problem but we do need to keep the conversation on point because there are folks on both sides of this who do nothing but derail those conversations with racist garbage.

 

Michael Brown did not have a chance from the day he was born. Not because he was black but because the black culture idolizes thuggish behavior and not toeing the line toward a victim mentality is labeled as acting white.

 

No they don't. Because none of those statistics demonstrate 'blacks' operate as a group to commit violence on 'whites' as a group. It's like asking us blame George for Bill's crime, because both are 49er fans.




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Really lets go by the facts we actually know clearly. This officer was allowed to give his statement many days after the incident with no real reason other than being allowed to tailor his story around the evidence. But one fact is an epic fail he went for my gun but there is no evidence of that no fingerprints on the holster or the gun. It is a travesty because it is the exact same testimony of Zimmerman. Zimmerman gave the blueprint on how to get away with murdering a black youth. This is proven because the police chief initially even after talking to Wilson gave statements that wasn't in wilsons testimony. Like trying to stick spagetti to the wall. It's crazy because he emptied his whole clip but only a few shots are accounted for in Wilsons testimony. By wilsons testimony also there is another problem he said brown backed up from his car and then Came back to hit him again but any victim of a car jacking or anything involved with you being threatened in a car, you roll up your window that's what fearful people do they protect themselves. But this officer was allowed time with no medical emergency to have a team of people develop his story as the evidence came out.. I remember the ghost incident report do you

 

In Brown's situation, victims aren't protestors, or policeman, or black people at all. Victims are average people, people which want to live calm. Darren killed Michael, he is guilty! Michael attempted to injure Darren, he is guilty. Man opened small food shop at the corner, now the shop is burnt, he is guilty too?! Where is your justice?

 

When you look at this kids Mother and the adults responsible for raising him, clearly this kid started out with very little chance to amount to anything.

That doesn't relieve him of any responsibility, but his guidance growing up was not exactly conducive to achieving any success in life.

 

...and by "boys" you mean 'predatory criminal thugs'?

 

Everybody should ask him/herself one question:

If the cop were black and the kid were white, would you feel the same about the incident.

Me: Absolutely. I seriously hate thugs. I seriously hate people who steal from hardworking people.

 

Well it certainly seems culturally innate, just look around this country. Look around the world. We don't need to pretend it doesn't exist, we have done that for too long and look at the results.

 

One more question. If the reality reversed, would white people be out in the streets burning their neighborhood to the ground?

 

I agrre with this but you did not go far enough. What about the low IQ folks that will come inhere and portray Michael brown as poor innocent teenager. The knife of truth cuts both ways.

offtopic perhaps but isn't the affirmative action program saying that blacks are inferior and cannot compete with whites unless special consideration is given.....just saying

 

I believe just the opposite in a way. We don't pretend it doesn't exist. We now see it where it doesn't exist.

What we really don't do is recognize how things have changed for the better. The days of forced segregation are long gone. The days of sitting on the back of the bus, or colored water fountains are long gone. For some reason like race hustlers like Sharpton and others pretend things are the same as they were 50 years ago.

The only change needed is to eliminate the race pimps / hustlers who make their living by inciting racism at every opportunity.