is the 1911 pistol "enough gun" for grizzly and elk?

bear hunters almost never get charged (even after they have shot the bear, and no, you CANT stop a charging grizzly with a bow. arrows kill by means of blood loss and that's MUCH too slow when you are being charged. it takes at LEAST 5 seconds for blood loss to cause incapacitation. the grizz charges at 50 fps. 5 seconds is 80 yds, man. Well outside of the useful range of the bow. Even rifle users are well advise to have a "backup man" also firing, with a heavy caliber rifle, if the bear does happen to charge. So the pistol's inability to handle a charge is not really the issue.

For those who (obviously) can't read andwho are ignoran of the FACTS, my post was about the 460 Rowland,which has about twice the velocity of the .45 ACP, and equal velocity to the .44 mag, which has PROVEN (many times) that it has plenty of velocity and penetration to take animals, even elephant. The Motor City man took a Cape Buffalo with a 10mm. It was a spine hit, which seems strange, unless he was up in a tree stand, firing nearly straight down.

Just because YOU are inept and easily impressed does not mean that your evaluation of "no way" is correct. The Contender in that load has many times proven itself to be completely adequate, if you are any sort of shottist and woodsman,( altho you'll need a heavier, more penetrative bullet than the 110 grainer). Apparently you are neither. A 1/2" diameter bullet (thru both lungs, the liver
, heart or spleen kills anything that walks.

the entire POINT of hunting with a handgun is proving that you are marksman, reloader, and woodsman enough to make a sidearm suffice for what lesser men need a longarm to achieve.. I have no desire whatsoever to do all that work with a bow, because being able to do so has no value in our modern world. Being THAT capable with a true sidearm, tho (not some abortion like the Contender). THAT is (sometimes) useful..

 

When the crazy guy in southern Ohio set his whole menagerie of exotic animals free, one of the first responding officers ended up facing a charging black bear with his service weapon, a .40-cal Glock 22.

http://www.gq.com/news-politics/new...hio-zoo-massacre-chris-heath-gq-february-2012
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As he got out of the car, he grabbed for his rifle on the passenger seat, but it snagged on the computer stand so he left it. That was when he saw the black bear, at first facing him and then running straight toward him. Now he only had his Glock. Not the weapon you'd want when you're facing down 350 pounds of charging bear. He got off one shot.

The black bear fell about seven feet in front of Merry. He wouldn't ever know where the bullet went, though he assumed he must have hit the brain. All he remembered was the sight of the bear's head coming at him, and he also remembered what had been drilled into him at weapons training: Shoot what you see.
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Damn, now I want to go trophy hunting.

Hunting elephant in Africa would be cool. Lol, let's kill a big mamma elephant and leave its children by her rotting corpse. Forget the trophy.

 

when you shoot an elephant, natives for 20 miles around start walking there to get the meat. Trophy hunters spend many thousands of $ to get that trophy, 10's of thousands if it's an Elephant, believe that, and thousands more if they want a taxidermist to do a full mount of the critter's remains.