Do you support torture/enhanced interrogation? Left wing or Right?

This thread is to find out whether or not its mostly the left wing or the right wing who supports torture. Is it the people who support small governemnt, or the ones who support large government? You would assume since the government is doing the torturing, the ones who believe in small government would be against it but it seems to be the exact opposite and the ones who support large government seem to be entirely against torture. Very odd indeed. The poll is only for the discussion, so please dont move this to the dead poll section of the forum lol.

I am going to guess its the right wing who overwhelmingly supports torture, and the left wing who is overwhelmingly against it. Lets see if im right

 

Enhanced interrogation as we have defined it is not torture. We tortured no one.

 

Whatever helps you sleep at night little buddy

 

Oh, did poor little killer have to stand in the corner listening to loud music for a couple of days. Poor baby. Not torture, just being uncomfortable. If we castrated and burned them you would have a point. Bring me evidence of REAL torture.

 

So if a waterboarded you against your will, all you would tell the police is "Oh, he just made me "uncomfortable" he did not harm me or torture me". Well I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*)


Dont get me wrong, im more against Islam than you are and do believe we are at war with Islam and must fight it, that DOESNT mean I think we should be despicable barbarians and stoop down to their level and begin torturing people. As with all wars of this type, I believe in taking up a defensive position and winning the offensive through words rather than torture.

 

Enhanced Interrogation, regardless of party, under certain conditions must be used if those concerned feel it will provide war time evidence. In the case your concerned with, fresh from the war zones, known or felt high level parties involved, was used and provided information, at least for those involved and not politically motivated. As both Bush 43 and Obama cut back and stopped importing war prisoners to GITMO, preferring to kill off these persons, this practiced ceased, as not useful.

Since I can't prove it or can anyone disprove it, I can only suggest...if we had continued to bring prisoners to GITMO, interrogating these people (some high level). a lot of what's going today, would have not got it's start.

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Enhanced Interrogation, regardless of party, under certain conditions must be used if those concerned feel it will provide war time evidence. In the case your concerned with, fresh from the war zones, known or felt high level parties involved, was used and provided information, at least for those involved and not politically motivated. As both Bush 43 and Obama cut back and stopped importing war prisoners to GITMO, preferring to kill off these persons, this practiced ceased, as not useful.

Since I can't prove it or can anyone disprove it, I can only suggest...if we had continued to bring prisoners to GITMO, interrogating these people (some high level). a lot of what's going today, would have not got it's start.

 

ya dude, u didnt hear? we changed the meaning of some words to feel less uncomfortable....

 

3 squares and a comfy bed. Anything less is torture to you, right?

We took it right up the LEGAL line, and nothing else.

Democrats that incited violence against our patriots by creating their "report" are treasonous.

 

If we plan on winning we better fight like our enemy is willing to fight.

So, we're supposed to talk nice to them, sit around a campfire, make cookies, and sing songs hoping they'll start liking us? You are an absolute moron.

 

That is a VERY naive position. So you think that if you say to them, "pretty please" these "despicable barbarians" are going to spill their guts? Get out of fantasy land. The only thing they respect is FORCE. We are NOT dealing with normal people, are we? If they give vital info that will save American lives because of enhanced interrogation, do it...

 

There are circumstances where it MUST be used.

Would you not torture some bastard who knows where the bomb is? Where the next attack is going to be? Who the next target is?

You would, trust me.

 

Why do want the government to torture someone who doesn't know where the bomb is, or the next attack? If torture is acceptable government policy, that will happen. Why are you okay with that?

 

Why would they torture someone this person then?

 

You must understand that Progressive Social Marxists believe in Utopia, Unicorns, Golden Geese, and pots of gold at the end of rainbows. They see the world through rose colored glasses not as it really is. They are mushrooms that have been kept in the dark and continually fed Hotel Sierra.

 

Speak for yourself. I am not willing to give up my humanity. If you are willing to do so, that stands for you and you alone.

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Are you saying that you trust the government never to torture an innocent person?

 

Someone that wouldn't do what it took to the bastard that knew where the bomb was should change sides as far as I'm concerned. They aren't with us.

 

I call this one, elitist hypocrisy.

Shall we blow their arms off on the battle field with a round from a tank? - Yes, that's totally cool.
Can stand them naked on a box with a bag over their head? - No you idiot, that's torture.
What about a missile strike to the face from a hidden drone? - Let's roll!
Miley Cyrus on blast 24/7? WAR CRIME!
Crushed to death under rubble from a bunker buster? - Awesomely humane.
Forced to eat with a tube up your butt? - You're going to hell, Mister.

 

Depends entirely upon the specifics of the situation.

You have pretty solid evidence that a particular person knows where and when a nuclear weapon will be set off in the continental United States - torture away.

You have pretty solid evidence that a particular person knows where and when a wanted terrorist will be - don't torture.

Essentially, 99.9% of the time, I'm opposed to torture. It should always be illegal, and if there is a time when it is necessary, than legal persecution should be the least of the interrogators concerns. This is the only way to ensure that we don't stoop to their level, without also failing to protect ourselves.

 

Situations where we've captured some bastard who we know has vital information about an imminent attack happen in the movies, rarely in real life. Torture supporters keep presenting this hypothetical situation of a known terrorist who definitely has vital info, but in the real world it's usually a suspected terrorist who might have vital information. So what you are really supporting is torturing people who might have already told us all they know. Why would you support that as government policy?

 

You're actually right about that. If you seriously endorse the use of torture then we are not on the same side. I have no intention of siding with such cruelty in any way.

 

That should tell you the nature of who defines it.

 

Yup,

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Simulated drowning is definitely considered torture in most societies.

 

Do you endorse the use of bombs?

Because they aren't all that cuddly.