The Rise of Gay Marriage and the Decline of Straight Marriage: Where's the Link? (une

I would actually blame feminism for the decline of straight marriage.

 

An economic model that no longer feeds the people allow them to prosper, also doesn't allow them to afford being married.

When you have to live with your parents, for our jobs have been allowed to be shipped to exploit the poor in places like china, it affects society in various ways. This is just one way. It's a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) that what sort of economic model you have is so interrelated with other things in a society, and can affect those other things in a really negative fashion.

Like the rise in safety net useage. Now, the cons like yourself will blame it on lazy, entitled americans, but the real reason of course is that we sold out the American worker when the cons and some dems allowed the elites to write trade policy and economic policy including bank deregs. The positive changes for the average American that FDR and who followed him brought to America has not been reversed. And it even affects marriage, heterosexual marriage. Which is why it was so damned important, what FDR did, in wrestling some control over this nation back from the elites. Now those elites tried to kill him, but thanks to Gen. Butler, the assassination and coup was revealed and it was stopped. And we saw the middle class expand like never before in history, under the policies of FDR, when he took the control back from the elites who only care for themselves and to hell with the soiled, dirty, average working man.

 

What he said........

 

Part of the plan. Marxist demoralization.

 

Once upon a time, long ago, science developed a method by which women could have sex, and yet control and postpone their rate of pregnancy. At about the same time, women began to demand access to the same rights in higher education, employment and career choice as their penis endowed brethren...blah blah blah.... no fault divorce.... blah blah bah.... two income households.... acceptance of co-habitation ...blah blah blah....nondiscrimination in banking policies....blah blah blah ... better obstetric and nutrition therapy for pregnant older women... blah blah blah... women's shelters and legal protection for abused spouses.... blah blah blah

 

Because our society includes bigots like you who constantly are telling them they are evil, abnormal, etc. etc. This will change as being gay becomes more normal and those who hate gays and seem to make it their life's work to attack them all die out.

 

Either you purposefully fail to understand through plain inability to understand the basic premise of your cited materials... Or you truly have no clue.

The material you cited in no way corroborates your claim that homosexuality is a mental disorder. Your cited material describes the incidents of gays having mental issues compare to heterosexuals.

No way does the cited material claim that homosexuality is the mental disorder, but the stress of being gay may contribute to the mental issues of gays.

You are so freaking disingenuous. On your facts and on your veracity.

 

I personally think it comes from the devaluation of men. This started really with the feminist movement. Not that feminism is bad, frankly I support the concept that women ought to be able to make the same wages if they can do the same work as a man. We ought to celebrate mothers housewives working women and career women. It was the female misogynists that had piggybacked onto the feminist movement that set the stage for this.

These people that call themselves feminists are not really. They don't celebrate motherhood, the supremely feminine thing women do.

Anyway, somehow these braw burning ashamed of their femininity types really took over the feminist movement. Suddenly they enter pop culture.

I remember growing up in public school in the 80s boys were bad and girls were good. Hell they even doped up the really boyish boys and now this boys are men.

That and I don't think from a strictly business standpoint that marriage benefits men in the least. They seem to stand to lose the most should the marriage go south.

 

Did you even look at the studies? The second one was about psychosis being linked with homosexuality. But it wasn't done in the USA. It was done in the gay-friendly country of the Netherlands where over 90% of the population thinks homosexuals should be allowed to live the way they choose.

So your excuse of people treating them poorly doesn't hold up. Because the rate of psychosis in homosexuals in the Netherlands is comparable to the rate of psychosis in homosexuals in country's where they ARE treated poorly. If the psychosis was caused by treating them poorly then we would expect for homosexuals in the Netherlands to have a FAR lower incidence of psychosis than in the USA. But that's not what we see.

 

OMG have you even paid attention? I gave the qualifications of mental disorder. The qualifications of a mental disorder are that the behavior (in this case homosexuality) causes distress and/or is associated with mental illness and is an abnormal behavior.

I provided evidence where homosexuality IS linked with distress AND it's also linked with psychosis... and this is not true just in the USA where they are treated poorly. But also in the Netherlands where 90% of the population feels gays should be able to live how they want.

So yes, those sources say EXACTLY what I'm claiming. My point is that homosexuality DOES fit the definition of a mental disorder and it was changed from a mental disorder, not because they found evidence that it's not a mental disorder, but because of intimidation, political pressure and threats of violence.

Homosexuality STILL fits under the label of mental disorder.

 

I don't see how the popular acceptance of gay marriage could have led to an increase in unwed moms, and the decline of the institution, in general.

Gay marriages don't give off radiation, nor do any married gays I know have anything to do with unwed straight Moms.

A piece of paper thats titled "marriage license"...gathering dust in the skinny middle drawer of the desk in the upstairs study, at the house of a married gay couple...does not affect straight marriages in ANY way, unless gay haters lie to themselves and say it does.

I also find it distrubing that anyone who reads Douthat would think he has a point.

But...whateves

Merry Xmas!

 

I don't think there is a correlation, just a coincidence. Just at the time gays began pushing for marriage, heteros began thinking marriage is stupid and unnecessary. If fact, that began before the push for gay marriage.

I believe gays will come to the same conclusion at some point (that marriage is unnecessary) and that gay marriage is just a fad we're going through. Kids don't factor into those decisions but more and more women are thinking they can have kids and a career without a marriage certificate or men. And a lot of 'em can.