Illustrating Left Wing Racism to Left Wingers

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by johnmayo, Dec 27, 2014.

  1. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2013
    Messages:
    13,847
    Likes Received:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The American left is a finely tuned machine that could seek out even the slightest micro-aggression uttered by a capitalist. However, they have a problem perceiving the proverbial plank in their own eye while they search for splinters in my opinion. For example, take this ordained minister, community organizer and writer for the Guardian as well as Harvard's Journal of African American public policy. Here is his prescription for America:

    The left would have no problem finding racism in a statement that said the same thing but where the races and data were swapped.

    Consider:

    But pieces like this are not hidden away on storm front as they would be in the white community, rather this article was syndicated and the author receives government money to further his beliefs. What ways can you think of to get the left to understand that this kind of thinking is wrong? That is wrong to judge an entire race because of the sins of a few of that race.

    Quote from:
    http://blacklivesmatter.com/strange-fruit-revolutionary-violence-and-a-love-on-fire/
     
  2. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2013
    Messages:
    13,847
    Likes Received:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You make a strong argument for having the 50th thread on whether or not rich people are giving you enough of their money that you deserve for all the nothing that you've done to earn it from someone who would give it to you voluntarily. Forget all this riot and protest nonsense that is so this afternoon.

    No, this stuff is commonplace on the left. You should read academic journals, chock full of KKK stuff, just against white people. Took me 5 seconds on google to find the group and another second to click on "what we believe".
     
  3. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Our Founding Fathers already Told us what do, in our First Amendment.
     
  4. Nat Turner

    Nat Turner New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2014
    Messages:
    5,082
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Read academic journals? I write for academic journals. And even I don't read them unless I have to for work. Seriously brother, take a break from the campaign to take back your country and save white people from Obama's genocide and grab a six-pack and bong and turn on the game. I think the master race can spare you for the weekend.
     
  5. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2013
    Messages:
    13,847
    Likes Received:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So you must be familiar with all this? Let me know when I said Obama was bent on white genocide. I am quoting people we spend our taxes dollars on, it is legitimate. If you want to dodge it, there are a hundred other threads. I am out anyway, nothing has changed here. Leftists just lying and dodging all day long. Completely useless talking to you people.
     
  6. Nat Turner

    Nat Turner New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2014
    Messages:
    5,082
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I didn't really expect you to take my advice but I think you'll be glad you did.
     
  7. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,453
    Trophy Points:
    113
    gotta luv those that believe that somehow racism is the exclusive domain of a particular political partisanship.


    Racism and bigotry are some of the more unpleasant components of both our human nature and our society.

    Since the OP is about left wing racism, I'll throw in a bit of balance here.
    I believe it was Rush (that bastion of left wing thinking), who coined the phrase "reverse racism". Sadly, his legion of followers do not recognize the absurdist irony of such a statement.
     
  8. Daybreaker

    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2007
    Messages:
    17,158
    Likes Received:
    140
    Trophy Points:
    63
    One of your examples is true and the other isn't. That's the difference. One of them is accurate, and the other is full of nonsense. Black Americans live in a country of institutional racist violence run by white people. White Americans do not live in a country of institutional racist violence run by black people. You really don't. You don't even know what it is. You're making arguments of sophistry that ignore reality. You really want to know the reason why? The truth is why.
     
  9. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2013
    Messages:
    13,847
    Likes Received:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How many whites were raped by blacks last year? How many blacks were raped by whites last 40 years combined? Which number is higher? Why is that not institutionalized racism if what blacks face today is institutionalized racism?

    - - - Updated - - -

    I realize it is absurd. The dems who practice is are just racists. No need to qualify with the word reverse. Al sharpton and Barack Obama are racists. Easy.
     
  10. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Clearly progressives do not know how to respond when confronted with racism practiced by non-whites. It violates their narrative and worldview and they can't reconcile it.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Blacks would be much better off in Africa, is what I'm hearing. Yes?
     
  11. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2013
    Messages:
    13,847
    Likes Received:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm afraid nothing has changed here over the years. It may have gotten worse now that I think about it they dodge more brazenly and you get modded more often. Can you remember any breakthrough achieved in all the threads and all of the posts in all of political forum with the left? (Since Redalgo left?) I had forgotten how annoying that was while I was away but was reminded today. Going to try to get permabanned now so that I skipped this mistake for myself in the future. As a hopeless political junkie I can't help but want to check in on websites every now and then even when I know there is no point. Now if only I could get gas stations to refuse to sell me cigarettes I would be doing pretty good.
     
  12. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Nah, don't do that. Don't give them the satisfaction. You're never going to convince the left, they're a lost cause. They're your opposition, not people to help. Just mock and ridicule their beliefs and oppose them as much as possible. Others will catch on eventually, especially with how out of control their groups are.
     
  13. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2013
    Messages:
    13,847
    Likes Received:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    0
    No I prefer arguing with them over at Huffington Post. They are nearly all incapable of honesty, but once in a blue moon you have an actual conversation with an old-school Democrat the kind who understands trade-offs and just makes a value judgment different than yours that is worth talking to. The kind I married but have not found in the new left that has taken over America, and now she is a republican her party having left her so it is no fun because we agree a lot and nothing is more boring than talking to people you agree with. Oddly enough I changed on every point of major disagreement with her accept economics which she changed on. We are voting rand Paul probably...

    I've never found that here since Redalgo left. if you spend a few hours every day for the rest of your life arguing with these people you will not have changed their vote or mind once. Better to go on YouTube and find non-committed people discussing politics by accident and talk to them about an issue in a casual way. You could change more minds in one day than you ever could in three decades on political forum. This is the truth. When was the last time you got a straight answer? Meanwhile, smart conservatives have bothered to write one page opinion articles instead of 50 half page articles a day and post them online @Townhall.com etc..and make money. I think maybe I will try to get into that racket with my hobby time. first thing's first got to quit cold turkey.
     
  14. Daybreaker

    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2007
    Messages:
    17,158
    Likes Received:
    140
    Trophy Points:
    63
    I honestly don't know. Tried to google up the statistics and all I got was a whole bunch of right-wing editorials making the same ridiculous claims they've been making for the last few centuries. I also saw some left-wing editorials pointing out how the math is all wrong in the right-wing editorials, but the right-wingers just keep parroting each other anyway -- that's the danger in only accepting information from people that you already agree with.

    As for why black people are facing institutionalized racism and white people aren't, it's because of what the words mean. A white person might, conceivably, face racism at some point in their lives. But not on an institutional basis. The institutions of our society -- the banks, the schools, the businesses, the media, all the channels of power, the police forces, etc. -- act against black people in a way that you can't even explain to white people, who will (predictably) mutter something about affirmative action, which also doesn't work like they think it does.
     
  15. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2011
    Messages:
    48,910
    Likes Received:
    9,641
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't think they are acting against black people so much as they are acting for modern civilization. Acting for the goal of the US being a 1st world nation. I wouldn't want these institutions geared toward what the black population is all about today. There are plenty of countries that do that and I wouldn't want the US to be like them.

    It's time to hold blacks to a higher standard, but you won't. They vote the right way.
     
  16. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,453
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Apparently being black is all that is needed to be racist. Of course I am not surprised that racists think Obama is a racist, since they never get passed the false and out of context editing used to create their bumpersticker unsubstantiated accusations.


    There is no such thing as reverse racism. Its a right wing white-centric and frankly idiotic perspective to assume racism is the exclusive domain of whites. I guess all those honkies that have been accused of racism get a bit confused when confronted with non-whites who hate them for being white. Seems when the shoe is on the other foot, all of a sudden the master race gets discombobulated.
     
  17. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    do you have any anti Sharpton posts? Hes currently one of the nations most prolific racists and Im wondering if you have called him on it.
     
  18. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2011
    Messages:
    39,871
    Likes Received:
    11,453
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Really? has Sharpton called for violence against white people? has he made hateful statements against white people in general (racist remarks) or against specific white people who he thinks are racists themselves?

    Racism does not know political partisanship.
     
  19. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    28,747
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Did you just ask if .....nah...lemme check again...yep you did.....

    “White folks was in the caves while we [blacks] was building empires … We built pyramids before Donald Trump ever knew what architecture was … we taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”

    “So [if] some cracker come and tell you ‘Well my mother and father blood go back to the Mayflower,’ you better hold you pocket. That ain’t nothing to be proud of, that means their forefathers was crooks.”

    Efraim Lipkind, a former Hasidic resident of Crown Heights who had witnessed the riots of 1991, stated the following in a July 1994 sworn deposition: “Then we had a famous man, Al Sharpton, who came down, and he said Tuesday night, kill the Jews, two times. I heard him, and he started to lead a charge across the street to Utica.”

    Tawana Brawley ring a bell? It doesn't does it?
     
  20. ManifestDestiny

    ManifestDestiny Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2013
    Messages:
    3,608
    Likes Received:
    35
    Trophy Points:
    48
    "Concerning nonviolence: It is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself, when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks. It is legal and lawful to own a shotgun or a rifle. We believe in obeying the law. It doesn't mean that I advocate violence, but at the same time, I am not against using violence in self-defense. I don't call it violence when it's self-defense, I call it intelligence." - Malcolm X
     
  21. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Is it a coincidence or is it a "conspiracy" that State governors are getting a free pass regarding that which is necessary to the security of a free State?
     
  22. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,833
    Likes Received:
    23,082
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think it's possible to demonstrate left wing racism to actual left wingers. It's one of their most powerful mental blocks. I think I've posted this before, but when the Sony hack first happened and the email conversations from Sony execs Scott Rudin and Amy Pascal about Obama's movie choices came out, on Morning Joe political reporter Mark Halperin said they weren't racist because Pascal and Rudin were long time contributors to the Obama campaigns. Seriously, that was the reason. Compare that to Bruce Levinson's (the Hawks owner) emails, where there was unanimity in the press that they were racist emails. To me, they read like marketing emails; he was trying to get a demographic in the seats that would spend a lot more money.

    So for basically the same crime, Pascal, good Democrat: not racist. Levinson, contributed to both Republicans and Democrats, therefore, not a good Democrat. That equals: racist.

    In academia, there is a theory that only whites can be racists because only whites hold power in society. No matter how much a Black person may despise White people, it's not racism, merely a natural reaction to oppression. Much the same thing is believed in society at large (at least on the left). Racist jokes are just jokes, not racist, if a good liberal tells it because they oppose racism and oppression. yada yada yada. As Halperin said, they can't be racist because they contributed heavily to the Obama campaign. Leftists can not envision someone who is pro Obama being racist. If evidence is thrown in their face, cognitive dissonance sets in.

    So, threads like this are a waste of time.
     

Share This Page