Medical use of pot

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There would be quite a bit of money for whomever created the cure for a particular disease. Are you trying to claim that potential "cure" devlopers are in on a conspiracy with the medical industrial complex even at the expense of their own riches ?

    You don't like maintenance medicines? So insulin is a pile of nonsense to you?

    Im beginning to think your vim and vigor about this isn't really about marijuana at all, and is more about some off the wall medical conspiracy belief that you hold.
     
  2. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    fresh air

    Pot has "spiritual qualities" now that is just about the most ignorant reason I have ever heard for using pot.

    The fact is we cant believe anything a pot user says since his brain is damaged by pot.
     
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    So what? What business is it of yours?
     
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    No conspiracy junk at all.

    I've had family members whose lives were destroyed by pot.

    So tell me again how pot is beneficial to society?

    I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    Pot destroys lives.

    That's my problem with it.

    But of course, who cares as long as you get high?
     
  5. X-ray Spex

    X-ray Spex Active Member

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    Shocking! A liberal who believes that a person knows better than government!

    As a libertarian, we agree totally with that. But in other places, it seems that liberals view the government as all-wise, all-knowing, all-beneficient, and there is no power they think the government shouldn't have.

    Interesting....
     
  6. FAW

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    It is true that the overwhelming majority of "medical" marijuana patients are simply recreational users, and most recreational users like the medical marijuana movement because it takes one step closer to pure legalization. With that being said, your logic is flawed. There are in fact some legitimate medical benefits for some conditions. CBD does in fact have medicinal benefit, but so does THC. For a patient that has a condition that benefits from CBD, they would absolutely be happy with a strain that is exclusively CBD. For a legitimate patient that has a condition that benefits exclusively from THC, they of course would have no interest in a CBD dominant strain.

    The "proof" that you are claiming is really little more than ignorance.
     
  7. X-ray Spex

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    ^ This.

    +++

    Post of the year nomination!
     
  8. FreshAir

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    of course not, a cure is not a money maker, the pharmaceutical industry also support prohibition as they want you to buy only their meds, they are the biggest pushers of quitting smoking too, as they push nicorette, ect....

    the pharmaceutical industry doesn't like natural herbs... they cut into the bottom line

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    no more ignorant then any other belief... like prayer will cure you..... ect....

    fact is, your wrong and not being very logical.....

    prohibitionists were born with a mental birth defect I think, which means we can't believe anything a prohibitionists says

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    Is that a fact... you can prove that? Pot damages the brain to the extent that the user is incapable of telling the truth? If a pot user says 2+2=4 you're going to say it's 5?

    Interesting.
     
  11. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you said...


    THAT, is conspiracy junk

    Sorry to hear that you have family members with destroyed lives. Without getting into how pot specifically ruined their lives, I will add that I have family members that ruined their lives with alcohol. Rather than blaming alcohol, and calling for its prohibition, I blame them. At some point the individual has to take responsibility for their choices in life.


    I never claimed that marijuana is beneficial to society. I do see it however, as being less harmful than alcohol. I also would not claim that alcohol is beneficial to society. I believe that we as individuals should have a choice how to live our lives, and absent of breaking any other laws while under the influence of either substance, both should be completely legal.
     
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    It honestly should be legal throughout the whole nation, for millions and millions of people getting pot is as easy as making a phone call. And believe it when i say they don't give a single damn weather its legal or not. Despite what these self righteous prohibitionist control freaks would like to make themselves believe. This country is awash with drugs and the only thing to blame is the widespread government corruption which the war on drugs has brought us.

    Cartels make billions, Law enforcement can seize your property and crap all over the 4th amendment. But i guess it's all fine and dandy as long as those oh so heinous pot smokers continue to chill out and eat a bag of Doritos or watch some funny tv.

    How can anyone buy into this anymore?
     
  13. jack4freedom

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    Sounds like a typical Nanny state liberal in favor of laws that limit personal freedom in the name of public safety. Next you'll no doubt want to ban guns and cars.
     
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    Whatever drug an adult wants to ingest should be their business to use or not use. BUT, if that person, intoxicated harms another person, then the penalty should be severe. i.e. If a person is DWI and hurts no one, no problem. IF the same person crashes and hurts another person, then it should be something like automatic 5 years minimum in prison. Ditto for any other intoxicant in any other harm to another person or property.

    Just don't use my tax dollars to pay for your intoxicants or your medical treatment if needed from your overuse.
     
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    Thank you. I learned a lot about medicinal pot thru JD, neighbor friend and how it gives him relief from the pain and I believe him b/c, if nothing else, his behavior b/f and after using it....... quite a change! But I also know the man and have for around 5-6 yrs now. He's one of the nicest, kindest men I've ever known and not a liar.....

    And those cases of the children suffering from multiple seizures. Those kids aren't 'high' from the pot component given them, they're just able to enjoy their days like other kids......

    A little bit of education about something you really don't know anything about can be very helpful.......
     
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    That I'll agree to, I just hate Marijuana and will never accept it as medicinal.

    I'm in a very grouchy mood right now and I have no wish to discuss this in an unbiased and objective manner, so I will drop this discussion for another day.
     
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    the penalty should be severe regardless of the reason they inflicted harm on another....

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    Why should someone be penalized for being intoxicated and doing no harm to anyone else?
     
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    that was not what I meant, the penalty of intentionally harming someone should be severe regardless of the reason

    being intoxicated or not should not mater

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    At the risk of being repetitive, what business is it of yours? Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you think you are that gives you the authority to tell people what substances they can and cannot partake in?
     
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    Go (*)(*)(*)(*) yourself, hypocrite.

    Who the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you think you are tot tell me what I can and can not express?

    You are a complete and utter hypocrite.

    You don't get to tell me what I can and can not say. You have no authority and you have no right to do so, do you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing understand, you hypocritical piece of filth?

    if it's okay for you to judge me then it's okay for me to judge you and anybody else.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) the (*)(*)(*)(*) off.
     
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    Gotcha! The problem might for prescription meds, determining if used or abused.
     
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    this should be of no great surprise to anyone. Stoners are Stoners, the high is all they care about.
     
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    That's all interesting and all, but you didn't answer my question. Who are you to tell someone you don't even know that they can't consume something they wish to consume?
     
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    Who are you to tell people that they must accept people they don't want to accept?

    Who are you to tell someone that they must pay for their medical expenses?

    Who do you think you are to tell people how they must live their life to pleaese you?

    You're a hypocrite.

    Get out of my face.
     

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