libertarian party has destroyed liberty

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  1. blackharvest216

    blackharvest216 Banned

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    The libertarian party is an international movement. Liberatarian is the polar opposite of authoritarianism. But both right wingers and left wingers can be authoritarian or libertarian. Yet the libertarian political party is super right wing and has destroyed what libertarianism actually means. They want too bring back slavery deny women the right too vote and bring the death penalty for those who offend their chosen religion.

    Yet libertarianism means letting people do whatever they want without harming someone else and reduce the definition of " harming someone " as much as possible.

    For example if I say your religion is false I've harmed you. But I shouldn't be murdered for it.

    But the libertarian seeks to create cities.counties.and even entire states where extreme authoritarian laws exist. And that larger bodies like a federal government can't prevent them from doing so.

    Ron Paul a champion of the libertarian party is a fervent racist homophobe and theocratic leader who wants too setup individual pockets across the USA that resemble the worst of the Confederacy. Essentially a Christian al queda

    There are authoritarian Democrats and Republicans.
     
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    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    How about you provide a source for these outrageous lies, such as "they want to bring back slavery, deny women the right to vote, and bring the death penalty for those who offend their chosen religion."

    Here's the link to the Libertarian party platform: http://www.lp.org/platform It says nothing about any of the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) you are claiming.

    And Ron Paul is a Republican. Any actual members of the Libertarian Party you would care to defame?
     
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    Bluespade Banned

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    The Fail is strong with this thread.

    Wow.
     
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    Bluespade Banned

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    I read dumb (*)(*)(*)(*) posted about libertarians on this site all the time, mostly by retarded leftist who try to equate Libertarianism to anarchy in places like Somalia, or retarded conservatives who are throwing a temper tantrum about libertarians not voting for their politicians.

    But this one really takes the cake. You've took complete ignorance and reached for the stars. Pat yourself on the back buddy.
     
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    blackharvest216 Banned

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    Tryng too prove any wrong doing. About the libertarian party too an actual libertarian is like too trying too convince a cult member not too drink the kool aid because the spaceship wont pick them up after.

    You'll just be wasting your breath
     
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    Wow, that's what I say about people who spew unfounded nonsense, crazy how that works, huh?:rolleyes:
     
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    blackharvest216 Banned

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    You know libertarianism not such a bad concept I'm a liberal yet I have more in common with libertarian Republicans then I do with authoritatarian Democrats.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Insanity runs deep in some people. I think this is the height of trying to vilify Libertarians. Usually it is liberals that do this, especially using the tired and overcharged race card. I wonder what gets into people to make themselves look so silly?

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    Libertarians have more in common with liberals than conservatives except liberals have bought into tyranny of government and any threat to that tyranny is met with almost violent reaction.
     
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    It's not a concept, you live it everyday along with the majority of Americans.
     
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    Bluespade Banned

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    I guarantee that I can find some middle ground with you, just like I can find middle ground with liberals on some social issues. Both sides are authoritarians in your own ways.
     
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    That's LibSpeak for, "I can't back up anything I said.

    " They want too bring back slavery deny women the right too vote and bring the death penalty for those who offend their chosen religion."

    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). That is a lie. That would make you a liar, wouldn't it? Of course, I'm just wasting my keystrokes on a lying fool. Good-bye.
     
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    blackharvest216 Banned

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    Oh hell did I attract a bunch of brainwashed paulbots too this thread or what

    I'm sorry paulbots I want you too know I so dont care what u think at all not only about this but pretty much everything

    Your opinions are meaningless too me I was hoping to get some opinions of Republicans and Democrats on the matter, Paul boys can fock off and all
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Libertarians are the opposite of authoritarian. The far left and far right both want to use force of government to implement their version of utopia.
     
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    Please, learn to spell, punctuate, use grammar, and compose logical, meaningful sentences. Also learn something about the real world. Please. For your own sake. You sound completely unprofessional. Maybe you have some good ideas but no one will ever be able to tell.

    Sorry. We hate to be the one to break it to you, but these posts are severely defective.
     
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    blackharvest216 Banned

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    oh what a surprise a paulbot whose also a grammar nazi
     
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    You need to read Dave Berglan's book on the rise of Libertarianism. Suggesting that libertarians are right wing is maybe the most ignorant thing you have every said in your entire life. Say it to the face of a libertarian and prepare for a wad of spit to come your way.

    Conservatives want ENFORCEMENT of our immigration laws. Libertarians are on the side of Obama, giving those criminals amnesty.

    Ron Paul might be kind of a whacko, but there is no evidence of him being a racist. There's no evidence of him being a homophobe, since libertarians champion homosexual marriage.
    You have an awful lot to learn.
     
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    If you applied to me for a job, your application would go straight into the trash. Your incoherence is borderline disrespectful. That's just the way the world works.

    This BTW is the first time we have ever mentioned GSP on this forum... an older board on which we used to write had a poster named 'Spelling Nazi' and we could find errors in her posts. Too funny.
     
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    Are you sure you're picking on the right guy?. If you want to bash flip-floppin' Senator RAND Paul, I'll go along with you 100%.
     
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    If you read the Libertarian Platform, you will see that all the points you raise are not only wrong, but polar-opposite to what Libertarians believe. I have clipped answers to your erroneous accusations directly from the linked document, and placed them in italics for you.

    "We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose."

    "People should not be forced to sacrifice their lives and property for the benefit of others."


    "We oppose laws that effectively exclude alternative candidates and parties, deny ballot access, gerrymander districts, or deny the voters their right to consider all legitimate alternatives."

    "We favor the freedom to engage in or abstain from any religious activities that do not violate the rights of others. We oppose government actions which either aid or attack any religion."

    "Individuals should be free to make choices for themselves and to accept responsibility for the consequences of the choices they make. Our support of an individual's right to make choices in life does not mean that we necessarily approve or disapprove of those choices. No individual, group, or government may initiate force against any other individual, group, or government."


    Now that that is out of the way, lets talk a bit about the difference between 'ignorance' and 'stupidity'. In a nutshell, 'ignorance' is the absence of knowledge. We are all ignorant, for, no one can know everything. 'Stupidity' is the inability to learn, or to solve 'ignorance' in the presence of knowledge. Lets see which one; 'ignorant' or 'stupid', best describes you.
     
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    This entire op is quite dishonest.

    You will find no libertarians advocating slavery , denial of the right to vote or advocating the death penalty for any religion or speech.

    Nor are they right wing at all.

    Try and honest criticism rather than lies.
     
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    True, but there is common ground to be reached with reasonable people of both sides.
     
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    Translation: "I can't provide examples and instead just mouth of failed rhetoric because that is all I have and no real proof."

    Now that we've translated what you've said, we better understand your position. Thank you.
     
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    They are socially moderate and liberal. Half are secular. You're describing the Tea Party.
     
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    I would be thoroughly surprised if there was any evidence whatsoever than even one single libertarian on the planet wants to "bring back slavery, deny women the right to vote and bring the death penalty for those who offend their chosen religion." What an outrageous assertion!
     
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    Citations needed.

    ...or you're just talking out ur ***
     
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