The California Desert Is Now Home to the World’s Largest Solar-Power Plant

Google Kennedy and Cape Cod wind farms. The Kennedy's have been fighting wind power for long time and it was because it spoil their boating pleasure and the view.

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Twister is a lib, that means he doesn't have to do it, you do!

 

I've been out there at this solar panel farm. What I noticed were all of the Tyson Chicken semi trailer trucks entering and exiting this facility.
Did a little research since the truck drivers refused to talk to anyone.

>" Unfortunately, though, anything that happens to wander too close to a boiling tower is very rapidly cooked by the focused sunlight. Workers at the Ivanpah solar power plant call these birds “streamers,” as they ignite in midair and plummet to the ground trailing smoke. Federal wildlife investigators said there was, on average, one streamer every two minutes — or hundreds of thousands of incinerated birds per year. Another expert estimated that the number is nearer 28,000 per year. BrightSource’s own estimate is around 1,000 roasted birds per year. BrightSource is reportedly looking to build an even-larger power plant, which wildlife officials say could be “four times as dangerous” to birds. BrightSource has offered $1.8 million in compensation for the expected bird deaths. There are photos online of the cooked birds if you’re interested, but I won’t share them here; they just look like sad, singed birds."< But if you're really curious, just order a bucket of chicken from KFC.
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...death-ray-thats-incinerating-birds-mid-flight

New Solar Power Plants are Incinerating Birds
http://www.weather.com/science/news/solar-plants-birds-20140818

Bye-bye birdies. The world’s largest solar power plant that recently opened in the Mojave Desert has a gruesome effect: birds are getting fried to death when they fly near its towers.
http://news.discovery.com/tech/alte...-solar-power-plant-scorching-birds-140219.htm

 

Seems to be a rather favorable capital cost comparison to hydro electric and competitive price per megawatt. Not bad for an emerging source.

 

Why is solar power the holy grail for left wingers? Isn't there a huge environmental and cost issue with batteries?

 

Thank You for the upload about toasty birds.
I knew of the problem. How workers joke about watching them fly into the heat and burn in flight.

Unfortunately this desert ecosystem is treated with out the simple regards given to the tundra ecosystem.
Damaged, both are very slow to repair.
Carpeting the desert with mirrors is wrong.
Frying birds that get in the way is hardly "Green".
And what of the atmospheric heat vortexes created and their influences on the surroundings.
My Bet Is, putting solar on all those naked roofs would provide more power, be cheaper, and cut out the profiteer.


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I was having a conversation. Then you showed up with bizarre rant about evil people and throwing a lot of words into my mouth.

 

I concur 100%

And it's just not the birds being fried in the air but the affect it's having on the coyotes, snakes, jack rabbits, lizards and the scarce vegetation which is no more around this solar plant. It's also an eye soar just like the wind turbine farms that are whacking the American Bald Eagle out of the skies.

Then you have the local Indian tribes who are about to go on the warpath over this solar panel facility.

Native Americans sue feds for siting solar plant on sacred lands

>" Four Native American tribes have joined forces to sue the Interior Department over White House plans to site solar power plants on Mojave Desert land deemed by some as sacred.

Members of the Mohave, Chemehuevi, Hopi and Navajo tribes — or, the Colorado River Indian Tribes — say the land is already home to several burial plots and other sacred sites, and the federal government can’t lawfully put utility-scale solar plants there,..."<

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...-feds-for-siting-solar-plant-o/#ixzz3ROoLBo5E

President Obama and Sen. Reid told the injuns to go (*)(*)(*)(*) themselves, they no longer need their votes.

 

Unfortunately
Even 21st Century Indian Tribes get bought off out of greed and corruption.
Look at the casino fiasco.
Casinos from the race Liberals sold us as wiser and more compassionate to manage to land?


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No, let's let it progress on a voluntary basis instead of using threat of imprisonment to steal the property of others and subsidize industry.

End government benefits for renewables and big oil.

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You're not even going about it right. Pay the average Joe the same rate for power he puts back into the grid as you do the energy companies using large coal power plants. People will gradually invest in solar themselves as it becomes more and more viable. As it stands, we get fraction of the market rate.

 

Twenty years ago I suggested that we should install tens of thousands of turnstiles along the U.S./Mexican border. Each turnstile would be connected to a small electrical generator that would be hooked up to the electrical grid. As each illegal alien / undocumented democrat went through the turnstile it would turn the generator that would generate electrical energy.

 

The "world's largest solar plant" powers 160 homes? How pathetic. What's the overall cost...let's figure out the cost per home.

 

Obviously, more plants are needed. There's no need to rely on energy sources that continually pollute.

 

'Streamers': Birds Fried in Midair by Solar Plant, Feds Say

Hopefully, they will use the fricasseed birds to feed the Homeless.

 

Correct, which is why I mentioned it. Solar is nearly pointless in the SE where hurricanes can cause major problems and the cost to insure them is more than they're worth. If it takes 20+ years to see any sort of break even point, the technology is mostly useless. There needs to be a MAJOR jump in efficiency to make them a viable option. Wouldn't rely on any solar company you buy from to even be around in 5+ years. Solar is a pipe dream.

 

So do they sit in the dark at night?

 

Of course there is. Solar cannot replace fossil fuels for energy at this point.

And the materials and batteries that go into solar are created with lots of pollution. Same concept applies to hybrid vehicles.

 

The operative words here seem to be "at this point".
This only means that our society would benefit from further development in this technology, not that this technology is unviable.

 

Easy to love something this wasteful and ludicrous when it's not coming out of your pocket!

 

It's coming out of mine! My electric bill went from $0.08 a kWh to $0.16 a kWh due to their asinine renewable requirements.

 

Yes, so wasteful. The sun is not a sustainable source of energy and we will reach peak sun before the investment pays for itself both in monetary and ecological value.

 

It's a total boondoggle and it kills hundreds of birds by frying them in mid-air... no joke.

Liberal policies making energy more expensive and slaughtering birds wholesale.

 

No sweat right, it's not your tax dollars!

 

Here's what's even worse. The same idiots that support this super expensive boondoggle that slaughters birds by the hundreds shut down California's virtually brand new zero emission nuclear power plants (San Onofre, Units 2 & 3). The result is tons of carbon pumped into the atmosphere from the $500 Million a year cost of energy to replace what we lost from San Onofre. I should also mention the 4,000 high paying jobs lost and the increase in energy rates by up to 35%.

Liberals are stupid as it comes when talking about environmental energy.

 

Can't take their efforts to cognitively distort with minimizations as erroneous as they attempt to employ. They must has been trading posts with cognitive infiltrators for too long.

My only real criticism is that it is centralized energy still. Line loss is 70% so in transmission, it's loss really diminishes it's benefits. Whereas if that same area were divided up over panels on top of serviced homes, it might serve 300k.

Moonbeam bought into big corporate energy with that one. But it's better than a lot of investment in energy that might have been done. My bet is losses will be mitigated by nearby uses pumping water in the aqueduct.

 

Crony capitalism at its finest.