Judge rules interstate handgun ban illegal

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  1. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well stated.It's called Talking Turkey.

    Democrats LIE
    Republicans Talk Turkey
     
  2. publican

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    Be a good boy and look up when a kid becomes an adult. Thanks.

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    And where do you live? Shootings are up here in Chicago. So much for ignorance.
     
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    The thing this thread is missing is that it is a direct Constitutional issue and the judge is in Texas. Given the track record of Texas ruling, thus case will no doubt end up in the SCOTUS. It will be interesting case and could be dramatically impacted by the 2016 election. You have 2nd Amendment rights decided by a 5-4 court pitted against the Commerce Clause, tied up neatly with the States Rights to enforce regulation within their borders.
     
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    SCOTUS cares nothing about the Constitution so it has no credibility and is a complete and utter joke.

    The lot of them should be distilled into licorice for all the children to enjoy.
     
  5. Hoosier8

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    Yeah, but we will still have to put up with the progressive judicial activists until they retire.

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    No necessarily a direct Constitutional issue but a matter of making more difficulty than is needed. NICS checks are not impacted by this decision, only an arbitrary two FFL involvement for handguns when rifles are not treated the same.
     
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    If the permits where free, like voting is free to register, then would you consider it acceptable? Not all free rights are without beurocracy.

    I think it would be unconstitutional to charge any money for it, like the voting tax ruling back in the 50's or 60's.
     
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    ...If SCOTUS decides to make a ruling on the case, which I doubt they will. They do not like to make rulings on such highly debated topics before public opinion.
     
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    I'm not talking about shooting. I'm talking about the "right" of an 11-year-old American citizen to buy a gun. If you don't let kids buy guys then you're infringing on their rights. Be consistent or just admit that gun ownership is infringed... and for good reason.

    That's an infringement. That's not constitutional. Give toddlers guns.
     
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    I feel morally free to disregard any infringements upon my right to bear arms.

    We all have a moral responsibility to pick and choose which laws to obey and a practical responsibility to get away with it.
     
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    Evidently you have no clue what rights are. Not surprised.
     
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    I do not dispute the benevolence of your intentions; however, in my opinion, yours is a benevolence that should be reserved to God and the parents of small children.

    If you buy your toddler a gun, I will tolerate that. If you buy my toddler a gun, I will take it from him and keep it for myself. You got a problem with that ?
     
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    Nope. Fell off the rails here. You do not have the right to disregard the law on any grounds, moral or otherwise. You may choose civil disobedience to protest laws you object to but must expect to pay the legal penalty for the violation. If you believe a law infringes on your morals or religion, you may contest the law in the courts. However, if you loose in the courts, you are compelled to obey the law or suffer the legal concequences.

    You are off course, absolutely free to exercise your legal rights or not. But we all must respect the limits placed on us by our shared legal system.
     
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    Under our legal system, a minor does not have the freedom to purchase a weapon. There are many "rights" that are withheld until the age of majority. The legal responsibility for a minor's actions and protection are placed on the parents.
     
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    I live north east of Dallas and the numbers are Nation Wide, because a couple of communities have had continued issues does not change the fact that Nation Wide crime levels have dropped and have been for years now. Do more research or continue to display your own ignorance of the facts.
     
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    Actually they have been on the rise just lately and Chicago under reports theirs. That said, there is no correlation between gun ownership and violence as violence is not reliant on people owning guns but conditions and culture.
     
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    Wanna bet the numbers are down again for 2015? Ummmm, where have I said anything about the crime rate going up or down due to gum ownership? Pssst, for the hundredth time; I am PRO 2nd A.
     
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    I have read lately that gun violence is up just lately. It certainly is where I live. Not sure about gum ownership. :smile: I know you are pro 2A but gun violence goes up and down and many try to tie it to ownership which is a loosing proposition.
     
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    So like I said, it depends where you live. In some areas it is higher. Therefore it would be ignorant to say that it is lower nationwide even though it is up in many parts of the nation. Thanks for agreeing with me.
     
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    I use a Wrigley's Spearmint .45 myself ;)
     
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    Confusion on display.
     
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    The trouble with your view is that it only happens in places where gun rights are heavily restricted in the US.
     
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    Yes you are.
     
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    Let me know when you actually have something to add to the topic of the thread or do not bother to reply, I do not have any further time to waste on circular school yard games.
     
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    The 'something' has been added. When you learn to read, it'll be waiting for you.
     
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    Do not hold your breath waiting for me to waste my time on your nonsense.
     

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