Why don't we make third world countries like first world countries?

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  1. rockyreagan

    rockyreagan Well-Known Member

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    Your statements do not align with the reality of this world. Poverty was much worse before capitalism was developed. Increased markets means increased trade which is better for all of mankind. People such as yourself who worship state institutions, and collectivist ideals have been the roots of most of the evils of mankind's existence. Whether you talk about "the poor", "king and country", "the party", or "the people" all your collectivist kind has given humanity is suffering under the reign of terror of an iron boot placed on man's throat for different philosophical reasons.
     
  2. J0NAH

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    poverty and genocide has increased dramatically under the watch of capitalism. capitalism cannot breath without mass poverty throughout the globe. step outside of your little bubble called america and you will see.
     
  3. rockyreagan

    rockyreagan Well-Known Member

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    False once again. Mankind is better off now then it has been during anytime in the past. No other system has created the abundance of capitalism. Fascism, communism, feudalism, mercantilism, they have all failed compared to capitalism.
     
  4. J0NAH

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    False again.
    under capitalism we have seen the worst episodes of violence, terror and poverty ever known to man. any other system is preferable.
     
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    Becuase the people living in third world countries are the reason they are third world countries.

    It's the same reason why a developer doesn't bother building a nice apartment complex in the ghetto.

    Anything built in the third world of the ghetto will turn it into a (*)(*)(*)(*) hole overnight because of the people who will be using it.
     
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    Blasphemer Well-Known Member

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    Nope, statistically we are living in the most peaceful and wealthy times, and that is true globally. Your problem is that you severely underestimate how (*)(*)(*)(*)ty people lived in the past. Capitalism is certainly not perfect but this particular argument is just wrong.
     
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    Your world is of course peaceful bit all of the other nations you bomb and invade would say their world has never been more destructive but then again I don't expect on of you guys that live in a gold fish bowl to understand global issues

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    Your world is of course peaceful bit all of the other nations you bomb and invade would say their world has never been more destructive but then again I don't expect on of you guys that live in a gold fish bowl to understand global issues
     
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    If you want to make these ridiculous assertions, you need to provide some evidence.

    I know you won't, since you're a marxist and marxists do not care about facts.
     
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    If they want to make their wild assertions without providing evidence why should I? Double standards with a heavy dose of racism on your part no doubt
     
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    Your bullying tactics won't work with me. My mental is too powerful for you
     
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    How about you use that mental power and go find some evidence to support your claims.
     
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    How about those who condone greed find evidence that it is the best system or is it that you only practice double standards and persecution to convince yourself ?
     
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    We give to many countries but money isn't the main factor in bringing nations out of the " Third World" . A country's leadership, level of corruption, economic and political system, culture, set of values, education level and inner conflict, war.....all is a factor. We can't control those factors unless we conquer and assimilate.
     
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    The west can and does control elements of their political systems, to the extent that they have bombed an elected official home because "the west" didnt agree with the poll results. This is quite common actually. Also pretty much everything else you mention "the west " has degrees of control that it uses to manipulate. You could say that the west in its current guise is like a terminal cancer for these nations
     
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    You're the person claiming that the world has never been more violent and more impoverished. The person making the claim is the person who has prove the claim.
     
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    Why don't we make third world countries like first world countries?

    Because then the phrase "first world country" would lose all meaning, and many American egos would suffer from lack of stimulus. No one to look down on? How ghastly!
     
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    They're the ppl making the claim that it's less destruction, the person making the claim needs to provide evidence.

    Gosh this is stimulating isn't it
     
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    Well, you really aren't being realistic. Sure any country can do things to manipulate....but that equals to a very small element of control. In Afghanistan we can build schools. But elements within the country burn them down with the students inside. That hinders the much needed education that country needs. We can give money to help Zimbabwe...
    but unfortunately we can't control the corrupt government that keeps it away from good use. We can give money to the Palistians to build an infrastructure....but we can't keep Hamas from firing at Israel from school windows or building tunnels into Israel with it.

    To call a thriving society....a cancer is really warped thinking.
     
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    You started it.
     
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    thats because you export all of your poverty, kind of like letting your dogs do doo in your neighbours yard
     
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    You have military bases in every country exercising a degree of control over all matters. That's neo colonialism in principal
     
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    They're mostly there with the permission of the local government, and the pay rent, and they effectively defend the country. That's not colonialism at all.
     
  24. rockyreagan

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    [video=youtube;fvL9gf_F3dg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvL9gf_F3dg#t=53[/video]

    Here is a link from an article about this very topic.

    As stated, and as known by anyone who doesn't follow a political bankrupt philosophy, capitalism is the greatest creator of wealth the world over. It elevates the income of a majority of people, gives mankind the right to own their labor and property, well raising the standards of living of all that it touches.

    Fascism, Communism, Feudalism, Mercantilism, all promise what capitalism delivers, well giving the people nothing but steel shackles around their wrist, and an iron boot on their neck.
     
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    Why dont "WE" take care of our vets and our own poor people?
     

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