Drug Overdose Is a National Crisis: It's Time to Act

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  1. PGreen

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    Unfolding before our eyes is a national public health crisis: fatal drug overdose has increased more than six-fold in the past three decades. Today, more Americans are dying of drug overdoses than traffic accidents, primarily from heroin and prescription pills like oxycodone and Vicodin. Every single day, 120 people die in the U.S. of a drug overdose.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-...ational-crisis-its-time-to-act_b_6681090.html

    We have a country that wants to legalize pot and a military that now enlists druggies what do we expect! The really bad stuff is still really bad and we can focus law enforcement there.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    Such deaths are still NOTHING in comparison to Alcohol Related Deaths!!!

    Painkillers like Oxycodone are being sold on the street for th equivelent of $1 per 1 Milligram.....thus a Chemo Patient in their late 60's to 70's might be prescribed a 20 day supply of a total of 80 Tablets each being 30 Miligrams of Oxycodone.

    Most people of that age usually only take 1/2 of what they are prescribed leaving that older person 40 Tablets worth $30 each for a total of $1200.00.

    And every 20 days they can refill that prescription for Oxycodone.....and in the meanwhile kids are taking them...becoming addicted.....then as Oxycodone is very expensive they turn to HEROIN to stop their Detox Pain!

    It's all the DAMN PAMPERED BABY BOOMER MAKE LOVE NOT WAR BUT JUST SAY NO TO FUTURE GENERATIONS BECAUSE AS LONG AS I'VE GOT MINE HORRAY FOR ME AND THE HELL WITH YOU !!!

    OH....and by the way Little Dorothy......those 4 Tablets will cost you $120.00.....UNLESS of course you can come over here and make GRANDPA HAPPY!?

    WE SHOULD ARREST EVERYONE BORN FROM 1940 to 1948!!!!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
  3. PatrickT

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    My sympathy to the families but I doubt if any of the 120 drug overdose deaths a day were caused by forcible administration of drugs. I have addicts in my family. A cousin is a long-time user of Oxycontin and just about everything else she can get. Another cousin has fried her brain with drugs and has been in and out of institutions. Neither one will ever get getter.
     
  4. Labouroflove

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    Unintended consequences.

    When the DEA, and local law enforcement agencies and state legislatures began calling prescription drug usage an epidemic threatening and pressuring doctors to severely limit writing opiate prescriptions we saw a reemergence of heroin.

    This is the folly of Governments attempt to help. Government has zero credibility in thinking issues through. Their thought, "we'll threaten doctors with sanction, license suspension and jail, that will solve the problem."


    It, heroin use, is problematic verses prescription opiates for obvious reasons:

    Firstly, the dose isn't uniform as it is with prescription drugs. This creates variations in dose which leads to over dose.

    Secondly, the purity or strength isn't uniform as it is with prescription drugs. This variation in strength leads to over dose.

    Thirdly, the street drug dealer isn't an MD, or a Pharmacist and doesn't have a phalanx of Nurses, Pharmacy techs and other ancillary health professionals looking out for the patient.

    Fourthly, the street cost of Heroin hovers around $15 per bag or, "ticket", this compares to a 10mg Oxycodone pill which costs retail about 50 cents. This places one hell of a destructive burden on the user, his / her family, adding financial ruin for the family in addition to the issues addiction creates. A mildly tolerant addict, or "streeted" pain patient will use between 4 and 10 bags of heroin, 40 to 100mg of Oxycodone. $150 per day vs. $5. Do the math, it sums in additional pain and suffering.

    Fourthly, Heroin is produced in foreign countries distributed by criminal organizations with links to terrorist groups. Combining this fact with the huge artificial black market price of heroin, we are seeing billions and billions of dollars stripped from our neighborhoods and sent directly into criminal and terror organizations off shore, each month.

    Prohibition does not work, it hurts the user enriches the criminal and the vast amounts involved corrupt our law enforcement agencies and the courts.

    FAIL.

    Cheers
    Labour

    Oh, and let's add a Sixthly, god knows what's added to heroin on its path to the street.
     
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    How many have died only from pot?
     
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    About 5 people die every minute here in the US so that's pretty small potatoes there.

    Plus I don't think there has ever been a death directly attributed to pot has there?
     
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    QUOTE=AboveAlpha;1064744694]WE SHOULD ARREST EVERYONE BORN FROM 1940 to 1948!!!!!!

    AboveAlpha[/QUOTE]MOD EDIT - Rule 2/3

    When I hurt my back years ago I took 40GM of Vicodin per day for several months but I didn't like them so as I healed I stopped taking them. Some people can take heroin without getting addicted but I never took that chance.
     
  8. Professor Peabody

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    Sure there has!
     
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    Quit your whining and sniveling, or at least do something!

    I filed 9 civil suits trying to stop this tragic BS. First, the sherrifs dept. failed to appear on subpoeana in 1998.

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    And they had the records one year earlier. Mind you these are the MOST important records society keeps. The individual here called me from the jail to tell me about the records.

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    I could have taken those records to psychologists and used them to prove that psychology must treat the unconscious directly to address extreme behaviors. Killing oneself with drugs and alcohol is extreme.

    Then the county director of the county mental health department provided this letter which has a de facto approval of a proposed treatment direct to the unconscious mind.

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    By 2006, the deprivations of justice working to cease my activism had gotten so bad, as well as the people with drug and alcohol problem, another suit was filed.

    A copy was given to a reporter at my local paper. Two weeks later she was fired. A month later 17 other reporters were fired, resigned and gagged.

    http://algoxy.com/law/no_free_press/sbsecretsofmedia.html

    If you use the links at the top of the page you will see there was a secret revision of the local court rules that deprived us a new magistrate and judge when new co plaintiffs joined the pro se civil rights case.

    Clearly we have a much bigger problem than just people destroying themselves. We have judges and circuit courts working with municipalities to evade law and a vital duty to the public.

    What can you do?

    You can unify in support of the law of the land and justice to assure this treatment is developed and made available across the nation.

    Doing so will fix a lot more than courts and drug addicts, it can fix the government. Which is actually getting destructive to our vital rights.

    There you have it, a logical comprehensive course of action.

    All you need is something to unify around which is easily acceptable to all Americans. Preferably something which is also prime constitutional intent.

    I have that for you too. Free speech has an ultimate purpose, and it is widely abridged. The ultimate purpose is that it empowers our unity so we can alter or abolish government destructive to our vital rights.

    Every one loves freedom of speech, right? Are you glad now that a meaningful purpose for it has been found that also fits with the framers intents for us to be able to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights!

    Good! Time for someone who actually cares and is not just a whining, complaining snivelers to start a thread where we assert and demonstrate our unity.

    Or, use mine, but the pages here are filled with denial and confusion, so starting fresh is better.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...free-speech-choosing-limits-over-purpose.html
     
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    We can start by not teaching our children that marijuana is as dangerous as heroin so that when they do try pot, they're not thinking, "Hey, that wasn't so bad; might as well try smack, too."
     
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    Hmmm, so cell phones kill people also, in fact a hell of a lot more people. They cause ~1.3 million car crashes in a single year. Time to ban cell phone!!!

    I don't think you understand what the phrase "directly caused" means. Unless you think cell phones also directly cause deaths? :roll:
     
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    Oh ok, we're going to play that game?

    Then stop trying to ban guns because guns have never directly caused a death either.

    Technically all persons involved in shootings have died from blood not staying in the body or organs failing to do their job.

    So ban blood and organs?

    :roll:
     
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    I am not trying to ban guns.

    You made the initial argument, I gave you a similar argument showing the absurdity of your argument and you just gave another example showing the absurdity of your argument as it would apply to guns.

    I think we are done here, your argument that people directly die from weed is ridiculous.

    I love the 'pothead filth' line to. No 'drunkard filth' for the incredibly higher rate of death cause from drunk driving. No 'cell phone filth' for all the texters?
     
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    People have died because of pot just as they have died from booze, guns, and cell phones.

    Lots of things out there can kill you so why are we adding more?
     
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    [video=youtube;lLCEUpIg8rE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLCEUpIg8rE[/video]
     
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    The study sighted here has been crushed. The results are based on people with both alcohol and mj in their system, and chooses to conclude that mj causes people to die in fiery crashes. Furthermore it blurs the line of causation and correlation based on the results of blood tests of fatal crashes in which it does not distinguish fault, or age of introduction to the system... IE if a person gets high, then drives a week later and is killed by someone running a red light, this would contribute to the statistics sighted therein.

    Its bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Don't believe the hype.

    BTW, I don't do drugs... so try to address the argument, and not me personally.
     
  18. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    That's actually great news. It means that an additional 43,800 people won't die from cancer every year and run up expensive health care bills. Sounds like a win-win.
     
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    Look I can do it too!

    Selective Quoting FTMFW!!!!
     
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    The fix is so draconian and dire that the public wouldn't go along with it.
     
  23. Labouroflove

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    Nor should they. It's near draconian now, the abridgment of 4th amendment rights, the growth and misuse of seizure laws, the inner city crime rates, the corruption created within police departments and the judiciary, a million or more run through the system for drug use and sale each year.... No sir, the war on drugs as it is is too much, further measures would see our end as a free people.

    Someone above mentioned the Darwin Awards, we better be careful or our civil society with liberties attached will win one, if it hasn't already.

    Cheers
    Labour
     
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    I don't buy it. There are only about 5 million car crashes per year. Please show proof that about 1/4 of them are caused by cell phones, and not distracted driving in general.
     
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    So I ask those who are opposed to prescribing pain pills, how would you prefer to manage real pain?
     

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