Harf: "We can't kill our way out of war with ISIS"

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  1. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The one sure way to die one's way out of a war is to assume that one cannot kill one's way out.
     
  2. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    The duplicity on the left over all this is so think it's gooey. They dare not call it what it is, terrorism and dare not verbally point to the most obvious link between these acts of terrorism, Islam, more specifically, radical Islam. Yet on the other hand, they're quick out the gate to call members of the Tea Party "extremist", haters, racist, or whatever label they choose to apply on any given day. Diddo for their treatment of Christians or any other religion they see threatening their "free thinking" lifestyle. Hell, I'd venture a guess Obama's directed more direct derogatory comments about the wealthy in the US than he's directed specifically at "radical Islamic terrorism".
    And then we get this nonsense about focusing on things like jobs as the root cause. Such BS it sickening, careless and beyond stupid.
     
  3. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Oliver North talking out his ass to Greta Van Susteren, as relayed by the Gateway Pundit, aka "The Stupidest Man on the Internet"?

    Good grief you use crappy sources.

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    LOL! What a completely lame response.
     
  4. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ISIS could have never grown to our TV screens if not for the incubator of Obama's anti-Americanism.
     
  5. Cajuncontroller

    Cajuncontroller Member Past Donor

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    They are bull(*)(*)(*)(*) targets. They might as we'll be bombing a dirt mound.....oh wait that is what they did.
     
  6. FreedomSeeker

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    Correct, that's due to the way Mohammad set up Islam: when they DIE they get a REWARD (a guaranteed trip to paradise, and 72 virgins to rape, as well.) So they WANT to die, so they will be almost impossible to defeat by the traditional method.
     
  7. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    I see.

    #1, a source for your claims would be nice.

    #2, so would some logic. Why would we bother wasting bombs on worthless targets if there were better targets available?
     
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    Since Obama is asking congress to expand the military campaign, will he now give back the Nobel Peace Prize he won in 2009? Seems reasonable.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jobs IS the answer. But NOW is not the time to depend on that answer.

    That's liberals for you.

    They have some great ideas.

    They have horribly bad ideas about how to institute them.

    Overall grade for Liberal thought: D- (and that's only assuming that Conservatives wouldn't have thought of those good ideas eventually anyway- otherwise 'F' )
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Russia and America both decided to use 90% of their nukes on removing terrorists, it would happen. And then you'd have so few left, you could monitor them.

    And now that we've established that it IS possible for military might to conquer the terrorists, let's see if we can do it with less than 5000 nuclear bombs.

    I don't know that Obama would fail to use military might to win, but the weakness that his very words and actions convey, emboldens the enemy and an emboldened enemy is obviously harder to beat. Leave it to liberal thought to miss those points.
     
  11. Cajuncontroller

    Cajuncontroller Member Past Donor

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    I used your link from eairler did you even read it? As for the logic of this administrations choice of targets well they can't even name their enemy so I can understand their confusion in choosing targets.
     
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    The odds of Japan surrendering were significantly lower.
    The Japanese traditions were significantly more militaristic and longstanding.
     
  13. FreedomSeeker

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    Sharia Law increases around the world.
     
  14. Cajuncontroller

    Cajuncontroller Member Past Donor

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    I know if they all surrender we can put them to work in butcher shops. They seem to know how to use a blade.
     
  15. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just quoting the above post because some posts are just worth it.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hear here.
     
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    :yawn:And ISIS is getting a laugh over it. In a way they believe Ubama is inviting them over too...along with the rest of the illegals.
     
  18. raytri

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    Ah, yes. Use nukes to take out stateless terrorists. So simple, it's simplistic. Not to mention idiotic.
     
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    Give up then, ok.

    Best polish up on the appropriate submissive position to have your head cut off. Maybe some neck stretching exercises?

    Has the administration outlined the acceptable means of individual surrender? Should you run toward the jihadi with the longest knife; I mean I'm sure there's protocol to be followed here, lest we offend.

    Speaking of etiquette and attire, when does the NYT fashion page come out with suggested outfits for beheading? What color will match with the blood running from my neck? Should we wear ties or is an open inviting collar more appropriate? Should we thank the cut throat just before or during the celebration?

    Cheers
    Labour
     
  20. raytri

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    I did. Did you?

    Here is what it listed for a single day's work:


    Airstrikes in Syria

    Fighter aircraft conducted three airstrikes in Syria:

    -- Near Hasakah, an airstrike struck multiple ISIL oil pump jacks.

    -- Near Kobani, two airstrikes destroyed six ISIL fighting positions.

    Airstrikes in Iraq

    Fighter, attack, bomber and remotely piloted aircraft conducted 12 airstrikes in Iraq:

    -- Near Asad, an airstrike struck an ISIL mortar position.

    -- Near Kirkuk, three airstrikes struck an ISIL large tactical unit and an ISIL tactical unit and destroyed three ISIL heavy machine guns, six ISIL buildings, an ISIL vehicle, a vehicle-borne improvised explosive device, an ISIL bulldozer and an ISIL trailer.

    -- Near Mosul, four airstrikes struck an ISIL large tactical unit, an ISIL tactical unit and an ISIL staging area and destroyed two ISIL bulldozers, two ISIL vehicles, an ISIL armored vehicle, an ISIL building and an ISIL heavy machine gun.

    -- Near Fallujah, two airstrikes struck ISIL earthen berms used to control water.

    -- Near Makhmur, an airstrike struck an ISIL large tactical unit.

    -- Near Tal Afar, an airstrike struck an ISIL large tactical unit.


    Sounds like we're going after ISIS troops, equipment and infrastructure. How are those BS targets?


    Content-free partisan nattering.
     
  21. The Mello Guy

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    But they had a leader who could and did surrender. It took leveling a couple cities but it worked. We can level all or Iraq and Syria and Isis isn't surrendering.
     
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    Who is saying give up? But let's not pretend we are fighting a coventional war. Or that the goal in war is ever to kill every enemy fighter....it never comes to that. Normally you either take out the leadership or inflict such damage on civilian society that they give up. Isis is inflicting damage themselves on civilians...and just like al Qaida, killing the leadership will not do the job.
     
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    And yet ISIS continues to grow and cut off more heads and surround our military. Like I said bull(*)(*)(*)(*) targets.
     
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    obama is not pro-anything. He is an anti-colonialist. obama is an enemy of the US, and any enemy of his enemy is his friend. He sees the US as the cancer. He sees communism, fascism, Islamism and the like as mere blemishes in comparison. The best option available to him, at this time, is the doomsday cult currently running iran.
     
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    In the Gulf War we had 1100 airstrikes A DAY. Obama's approach reminds of Lyndon Johnson's choosing unoccupied road crossings as targets which he thought would send one of those messages "Don't mess with us, or NEXT time we'll REALLY do some damage". That didn't work either.

    You fight to win or you don't fight. And once you decide to fight, don't stop until the war is won. The lesson of 20th Century wars.

    Obama's decision to cut and run from Iraq and Afghanistan is the Lefty Democrat version of declare victory and leave. He forgets the enemy has a vote.


     

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