You have no clue what this debate is about in the least. Already refuted We're not sending families who have worked here, gone to school here, and lived her for years back to countries that don't have resources to take care of or protect them.
Its hilarious to watch you claim you refuted my comments when all you have provided was opinion. I see you bolded my question, yet failed to actually answer it, typical of someone who has nothing more then ideological ignorance and hyperbole. Why am I not surprised.
Your own Huff Poo link made the claim that field workers were making up to and more than $20 per hour. Do you not read your own links? Maybe you don't understand all those words they used that make your opinion look like ideological ignorance. Your opinion doesn't refute anything, least of all my comments, especially when your own links back up exactly what I stated.
>>>MOD EDIT RULE 2<<< you did not fully answer my question. Go back read the question again.This is from Huff Post "While the best mushroom pickers can earn about $35,000 to $40,000 a year for piece work, there's little chance for a good living and American workers don't seem interested in farm jobs." Here's what you stated It is exploitation considering "there's little chance for a good living. and many get paid minimum wage.
Of course I put your quote in bold letters. This topic is about support for Obama's immigration policies and what we do with illegals in this country. Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What do illegals who want to stay in this country and Obama's policies have to do with your quote. Who said families who have lived here for over five years only want to work here. Really nothing you state makes any sense. Maybe you think your on another thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did that poll also ask if it is alright for those illegal immigrants to get tax refunds and the ability to vote in elections like Obama amnesty grants? I bet if that poll revealed those facts you would see much different results
My opinion??? Then why do you quote the facts noted in my Huff Post article??????? How is anything stated in Huff post my opinion or any of the other facts quoted from other sources I use? By the way do you know what this web site is for? Everybody on this web site uses facts or quotes from sources that back up their opinions . Everybody. Please come back when you have a better understanding of how this web site works
Obama's amnesty allows non-citizens to vote in our elections? Do yo have a link that would support such an allegation?
Obama amnesty creates loophole for illegal immigrants to vote in elections President Obama’s temporary deportation amnesty will make it easier for illegal immigrants to improperly register and vote in elections, state elections officials testified to Congress on Thursday, saying that the driver’s licenses and Social Security numbers they will be granted create a major voting loophole. While stressing that it remains illegal for noncitizens to vote, secretaries of state from Ohio and Kansas said they won’t have the tools to sniff out illegal immigrants who register anyway, ignoring stiff penalties to fill out the registration forms that are easily available at shopping malls, motor vehicle bureaus and in curbside registration drives. Anyone registering to vote attests that he or she is a citizen, but Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted said mass registration drives often aren’t able to give due attention to that part, and so illegal immigrants will still get through. Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ole-for-illegal-immigra/?page=1#ixzz3RmKlH8O6 Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter
Why do you want The Insane One's unconstitutional amnesty? It is lawlessness at the highest levels which cheapens law. It will lower wages for those whose wages are already low. It will hasten the economic collapse of the nation. It will subvert the citizens' vote. It will do harm to our culture. It will further balkanize the nation which will lead to civil war or separation into multiple states. What is in it for you?
Rampant voter fraud now possible thanks to Obama illegally giving SS id's (for work permits and driver's licenses) to people here illegally under federal immigration law that's never been struck down or replaced. The rule of law is nullified by a president who is an autocrat.
The ignorance you display is hilarious. You do realize the poverty line in the US is $23,850.00, so if they are making about $35,000.00 to $40,000.00 and are above the poverty line, that's a pretty good living by American standards. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States
That may have been what the OP was about, but during this back and forth the discussion manifested into what it is, you then try to desperately now claim to be arguing the OP. SMFH The best thing you could have done was simply not come back to this thread, as it was dead. Your need to resurrect it clearly shows your inability to accept your ignorance of the subject matter and move on. Your petty insults espouse the ignorance you display.
The only fact that the Huff Poo got was that pickers can earn as much as $20 per hour and more the quicker they work, and they got that from a UC Davis study on the subject. The rest is mere opinion like this little stupidity that you bolded Its stupidity since the poverty level is $23,850.00, and the simple fact that the majority (over 50%) of farm workers are citizens and legal immigrants (PEW Research). You do realize that the Huff Poo piece is opinion and not fact right? Even though they tried to use some facts, they simply showed their ideological stupidity by trying to interpret them and then make their own story to mean more than it actually does, and you being the lemming you are......well, what does that say about you?
A court challenge to undo the damage The Insane One has done is the wrong way to resolve this. The House has sufficient power and authority to stop the Monster. But Boehner refuses to use the power he has under the Constitution. Why? He does not object to usurping the Constitution. he just wants establishment Republicans to be in charge. Let's see if the House holds to defunding The Insane One's programs. If so they are doing what must be done to restore lawfulness to the federal government. If they fold, as I predict they will then you will have your answer.
You want to talk about sources? You mean like your Theodore Roosevelt quote which is nothing but a twitter account posting as Theodore Roosevelt, which actually paraphrases a John Marshall quote? If you are using a plagiarized quote as your signature and claiming it to be a contribution from someone that never stated it, what does that really say about you or your links? imjusayn
This issue is a Lose/Lose for Obama and the Democrats. If the Democrats in the Senate stick with this line they will possibly hand a veto proof majority to the Republicans in 2016.
A majority of Americans say President Obamas executive actions on immigration... What? Majority support millions of illegals who will work on our works, eat our food and live in our houses? They have much more rights that many citizens now and i think - Obama's immigration reform is the worst thing ever done by Obama!
Eh. It doesn't surprise me. A lot of people support illegal immigration because it makes people feel good. "We want to help people!" These would be the same kinds of people who were protesting in Ferguson. "We are against racism!" Give liberals credit, they've done a hell of a job of making people feel good about their policies. Of course young people are given all kinds of lessons on liberalism. http://conservative-headlines.com/2015/02/wisconsin-middle-school-assigns-crude-anti-republican-homework/ Don't forget about limousine liberals. People who support illegal immigration while living in gated communities surrounded by only white people.