"The FCC's Orwellian Internet Policy"

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  1. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.computerworld.com/article/2888366/the-fcc-s-orwellian-internet-policy.html

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    Great article. The price fixing federales always attempt this sort of thing. What's disgusting is that many privacy advocates, such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation - support it. Go figure, most internet privacy advocates are lefty big-government types when Netflix wants a subsidy.

    I really do suggest you read the linked article. Especially if you're in favor of the (secret) regulations.

    The FCC should be abolished, and defunded. Either order is fine. Throw every last one of the parasites out on the street. Make their families dumpster dive for food, that sort of thing :clapping:
     
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    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    I'm amazed that there are still people who think the government is there to help them.
     
  3. Jango

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    Don't be surprised. It is a legitimate process that starts early in most children's lives -- going to grade school. All it takes is the transmission of an alien thought for the house of cards to start crumbling. The hard part is having an encounter with an alien thought. Some people don't have the time nor the energy nor therefore the care to look something up I.e. continue their education. The average American doesn't know much of anything about U.S. History. I graduated in 2004 and the most recent topic I was taught about was the Vietnam War...because that's where the book ended. More recent books start getting fuzzy on coverage of post-9/11.

    So if a person is never taught more than what they were drilled into memorization about in grade school nor was introduced to an alien concept that lead their curiosity to an Internet search message, they're walking around blind.
     
  4. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    And you were taught weren't you? Learning is not the same as being taught. But, you did learn what you were taught. Sadly, that's all you learned. But, that's all you need because the government that taught you will take care of you. They promise, don't they?
     
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    lol you guys would (*)(*)(*)(*) yourself if your isp started throttling fox news.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Orwellian? that would be your cell phone with the always on mic... cell phones btw are exempt from the net neutrality act
     
  7. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do have an Android phone with the Google Now "feature". I occasionally use the app because it's curiously brilliant at finding store opening hours. Not sure why.

    It does bother me - but I haven't looked into a way to turn it off. Meh.
     
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    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cows and chickens are left to believe that their benefactor is there to help them also, but precious few would survive unless they produce milk, eggs or votes for their benefactors.

    Ranched animals are almost always dumber and more trusting than free animals.
     
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    I might use this as my signature.
     
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    The illusion of freedom is breaking down. The sad thing is ranched animals are dumber and more trusting then the free ones.
     
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    net neutrality sucks

    i mean private companies aren't that great either but at least they don't make laws/have an army, so i'd vote on their side
     
  12. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Private companies aren't innocent in all of this. At least round these parts, they collude with the state to no end. The whole industry is a very disturbing coercive monopoly.

    Sure, the government is responsible for that, but the telecom companies aren't any better.

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    The problem is, rather than trying to fix this, they enact further regulations and make the problem worse. Like they always do. This is no different to the antitrust movement in the 19th century.
     
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    In theory, telecom companies have different motivations than governments. In actuality, the actual people in both telecom companies and governments are motivated by the exact same spectrum of incentives, with the single exception of the use of force, which is reserved to those in government. Given that, I will have to side with telecom companies .
     
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    Why bother?

    Essentially it's a bunch of money hungry control freaks flexing their muscles and peeing on us peons.

    There's nothing we can do about it.

    If we resort to violence then we become the terrorists or risk being declared unlawful combats and have our rights tripped away.

    So what else can we do?

    They don't care about the law, except as a means to legitamize their authority over the rest of us.

    I weep for this nation.
     
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    So, when the FCC smothers and kills the Internet, stop using it and switch to the Undernet accomplished by peer-to-peer extended range BlueTooth distribution.

    There are many, many, many ways to network computers.

    And all the Lefties will have accomplished is pissing off everyone and demonstrating the Left's fascistic policies.

    They will NOT stop people from exchanging free speech and anti-Obama/Left comments.

    The more they squeeze, the more we'll simply turn away.

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  16. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a symbiotic relationship. The companies support the government. Trust me, if you had Telstra as your telecom company you would not support them "over" government. Their collusion amounts to a conspiracy to use force.

    Saying you support the telecom companies over government massively misses the point.
     
  17. PatrickT

    PatrickT Well-Known Member

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    No. But I hear the panic in your words as you watch MSNBC going down. "Oh, the humanity." And I'm sure you and yours will be delighted when the federal government shuts down Fox News and any other source that doesn't cheer Glorious Leader.
     
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    Shuts down fox news? Shouldn't you be recounting your rations and ordering bullets?

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  19. ChristopherABrown

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    Wrong, I've proven no one will do anything about it. There is a real plan and laws which it can implement, but no one will act.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...free-speech-choosing-limits-over-purpose.html

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...nstitutional-threat-thread-real-defenses.html

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...endment-congress-cannot-runoff-lawmaking.html

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=392487&p=1064661768#post1064661768

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...s-free-speech-inadequate-retain-rights-2.html

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...free-speech-choosing-limits-over-purpose.html

    You've proven it too, with reverse psychology.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/394345-we-should-get-rid-free-speech.html

    The microcosm of the forum proves people are psychologically disabled from doing anything, or, they are all covert agents pretending to be real Americans.

    They will not even distinguish themselves as sincere Americans, agents would refuse to do that too.

    Agents or blobs, eaters, slaves and chattle.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You ****** doctrinaire "anarchists" make me sick. Is there ANY corporate giant you don't want to lickspittle for? Do you think somehow they'll treat you better or something if you're always the ones leaning over and spreading your vaselined backsides wide for them?

    Anybody who will vote for AT&T and Comcast over themselves isn't just naïve, they're so (*)(*)(*)(*)ing stupid they shouldn't be allowed near a computer, they'll probably (*)(*)(*)(*) the whole internet up somehow
     
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    Don't forget it's very uncomfortable to realize that you were talk nonsense in school and that "established facts" are just lies. I've met people who won't even look at evidence that might contradict their views.

    Which I understand. It's very uncomfortable. My first experience was realizing the vast amount of un-reported black crime in this country. I Up until that point, I believed that most racial crime was us evil white people. Come to find out... Nothing was further than the truth. I felt lost. I felt disconnected. I didn't know what to believe. It's an awful way to live really; being distrustful of all information.

    But... I think most people would rather live in a bubble than feel that disconnection. Sorry to go off topic. Your post just really resonated with me.
     
  22. Steady Pie

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    Says the guy giving Netflix and other large corporations an effective subsidy. Price controls always benefit some corporation who colludes with the state.

    The issue is not as straightforward as much of the right thinks - as usual many conservatives simply ignore that a problem (coercive monopolies in infrastructure) exist.
     
  23. Jango

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    Some would rather not know for all sorts of reasons like "it's too depressing" or "I don't like politics and history is boring." There are others that will walk past people who are laying on the ground or are being beaten/stabbed to death. The bystander effect. In the political realm it is represented by "I can't do anything anyway." At any rate, there are things I know that probably the majority of people do not. However, I am always conscious of the unknown unknowns. I do not claim to have all knowledge. I just have certain knowledge.
     
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    To the extent that telecom employs the legal use of force (government) to suppress competition, I oppose them.
    Using the government to oppose competition is more often than not a Republican stunt however.
     
  25. Steady Pie

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    Cost factor high: the FCC 'kommissioners' passed net neutrality regulations 17 hours ago.

    Hopefully Congress or the courts will overturn, but you of all people know how the ratchet effect works. Once the state seizes power it's very difficult to take it back.

    Netflix celebrates!
     

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