Wretched US Journalism on Ukraine

NOT SUFFERING


Kimberly Ellen Kagan (born 1972) is an American military historian.She heads the Institute for the Study of War and has taught at West Point, Yale, Georgetown University, and American University. Kagan has published in The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Weekly Standard and elsewhere.


Robert Kagan (born September 26, 1958 in Athens, Greece) is an American historian, author and foreign policy commentator at the Brookings Institution.


Nuland is Jewish and is the daughter of Yale bioethics and medicine professor Sherwin B. Nuland, the family’s original surname being Nudelman. She graduated from Choate Rosemary Hall in 1979 and has a B.A. from Brown University. Nuland is married to historian Robert Kagan

 

You do realize that Brezinski planned this back in the late 80's right. Look it up. Google "Grand Chessboard Ukraine" Remember Cookie Monster Nulands "F the EU" leaked conversation and her announcement that "all that is necessary to achieve the objectives of Ukraine’s European. We have invested more than 5 billion dollars to help Ukraine to achieve these and other goals. ” Nuland said the United States will continue to “promote Ukraine to the future it" They bought NGO to occupy Ukraine to keep them from closer ties to Russia even though it was not in Ukraines best interest.
In her leaked private conversation with the US ambassador to Kiev, the American female diplomat is heard laying down in imperious tones how a new government in Ukraine should be constituted. Nuland talks about "gluing together" a sovereign country as if it is a mere plaything, and she stipulates which members of the US-backed street rabble in Kiev should or should not be included in any Washington-approved new government in the former Soviet republic.
Then the nit wits get caught in another bugged phone conversation less than a month later. The 11-minute conversation was posted on YouTube –

In the call, Paet said he had been told snipers responsible for killing police and civilians in Kiev last month were protest movement provocateurs rather than supporters of then-president Viktor Yanukovych.
This is what the 5 billion dollars is being spent on.
Im sure that you are aware that Hunter Bidemn (Vice President Bidens son) was immediately after Porko took office was put onto the board of directors of the largest energy producing company in Ukraine.
Not to leave out the theft of the Ukrainian peoples gold. For a "barbaric relic" why is it always the first thing washington grabs.
http://nsnbc.me/2014/03/15/ukraines...y-flown-confiscated-new-york-federal-reserve/
Like I said you are to far behind and should quietly leave this thread if you are going to continue to hold onto your lie. Someone might mistake you for someone who knows what they are talking about.

 

In the last year 16 of the top central banks have adopted stimulus programs without any spending cuts. The entire globe is neck deep in debt. Since 2008 I believe I read that central banks have monetized 4 times the global combined GDP. This wont end well.

 

Thanks for connecting those dots. We need to send these Morlocks underground into the bunkers they built for themselves before they exterminate us.

 

Every bit of this post is hearsay and conjecture. It's all opinion on what you consider to be leaks or slips of the tongue when in fact they are normal statements . And you're running away from the fact that I refuted your characterisation of Obama statement. Moreover the us and the EU are perfectly entitled to help Ukrainians achieve a more just political settlement if they wish.

The shooters were not agent provokateurs and being closer to Russia is not in Ukraine’s best interest.

 

The media has been transformed as little more than a propaganda arm of the current administration.....though it has been dominated by the ideology of political correctness for decades.

The public is becoming more and more aware of the fact the the alphabet media and it's talking heads aka brian williams............lack credibility. Hence: the popularity of Fox News which is far from being what it needs to be but still is the only mass media outlet that lets much truth out........not to mention many now get all their news on the internet...which is where you will find the most truth now if you know where to look for it.

 

Hearsay is when something cant be proven. Al;l of the facts I have given you have been acknowledge by the idiots who said them. You have run away from every fact I have presented. You can believe whatever lies you like. You refuse to educate yourself on the issue even though I have given you several good starting points. I am not going to hold your hand on this issue. Run back into your rabbit hole where you feel safe and can ignore what is going on up here in the real world.
You are so ignorant of the facts that you are completely unaware that Tymoshenko also got caught calling for the complete extermination of all 8 million Russians living in Ukraine regardless of what they did. Are you such a coward that even though someone told you they were going to come to kill you that you would throw your family out to them and disarm yourself? You are about as cowardly of a person I have ever run across. You should be ashamed of yourself. All of this from someone whos avatar is the KKK. Nice.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...illion-russians-ukraine-must-be-killed-nuclea

 

Lol

First you can't back up your charge against Obama. Now you accuse that poor woman who was jailed by her rivals for getting a bad deal from Russia. The same woman who amnesty and hrw both state was unjustly jailed in a travesty of due process.

Lol and your so blindly ignorant you don't even know what my avatar is trying to say.

Your just a blind Russian propagandist.

 

Seriously? Did you actually miss the entire Nuland fiasco during the Olympics?

 

I think you've missed the entire boat here.

It was a bad idea for the US to meddle and contribute (along with the EU) in the overthrow of a duly elected Ukrainian President. Not only was it simply NOT our business, it reintroduced the Cold War and gave Putin a chance to grab more control (Crimea) than he previously had.

While it might be a game to the Obama Administration - it's no game for the thousands who have lost their lives because of this.

Obama has a habit of destroying what other administrations have accomplished before him.

 

As a Brit I've been following the British media on the Ukraine war and have never previously experienced such hideously biased and prejudiced reporting. The worst of the lot is The Independent, a cruel title these days given that this broad(*)(*)(*)(*) newspaper is now owned by Putin hater Alexander Lebedev.

It's interesting that the British authorities would allow a major British title to be controlled by a Russian oligarch. But then they let the "Dirty Digger", Rupe Murdoch, take over control of The Times and Sunday Times and the Sun, so anything is possible if the price is right. But you can wave farewell to honesty, objectivity or responsible reporting for ever after.

My view is that we're (the west that is) are in the middle of a propaganda war over Russia with the intention of getting rid of Putin altogether, a la Muamar Gadaffi.

 

I must have missed this warm welcome Porko got in Simferopol in the MSM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n0ey9H2UOY
He wont even look up, its as if he knows looking them in the eye will only provoke them. He is like a neutered dog.

 

Propaganda goes both ways.

 

Well of course it does. But tbhis doesn;t change the fact that the major western media outlets simply lie to their own people about reality.

The media in the west used to have standards, but sadly no longer.

 

Hard to lie about the fact that many of Putin's critics turn up assassinated. Hard to keep under wraps Russian involvement in Ukraine.

 

Who particularly did you have in mind?

 

are you kidding?

lots of his opponents have been murdered.

even more have been the victims of attempted murder.

 

Not kidding at all. I want names and evidence.

 

here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Shchekochikhin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galina_Starovoytova

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Yushenkov

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artyom_Borovik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov


Putin also tried unsuccessfully to kill:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yegor_Gaidar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Khokhlov

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Gordievsky

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko



and of course, let us not forget the hundreds of innocent Russians murdered in the apartment bombings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_apartment_bombings

 

Nice of you, but I also asked for evidence.

A list of names from Wikipedia of Putin opponents who have died doesn't constitute evidence.

There is no real evidence that links Nemtsov's (or Litvinenko) death to Putin. Other than highly slanted western media propaganda as part of their regime change war against Putin.

On Nemtsov, what circumstantial evidence is now available now points towards his Ukrainian girlfriend, Ana Durizkaja, who it has been reported was also dating Yury Bereza, the Ukrainian commander of the punitive battalion Dnepr-1. One might, therefore, reasonably look to Ukraine as the potentially guilty parties for kicking off another false incident (MH17 being the other) to give the west's media another opportunity to froth at the mouth.

Meanwhile, Nemtsov's girlfriend Ana Durizkaja has conveniently suffered a partial memory loss...

Has Putin killed enemies? Very likely. He is a former KGB type after all. But let's get all the ducks in a row and provide irrefutable evidence before encouraging our beloved daily inaccurate media go off half (*)(*)(*)(*). Again. They did this with MH17 and were eventually found to be wrong. Even German intelligence, the BND say Russia was not involved in that incident - while the Dutch report is suggestive that it was a fighter jet that shot the airliner down. Now the media have gone all shy and silent about that atrocity since that report was published.