BREAKING NEWS: A leading politician & Putin´s critic B Nemtsov shot dead

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  1. Silver Surfer

    Silver Surfer Banned

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    That was rather an idiotic answer Ronstar. You could do better than that. The onus is on you to provide a credible evidence. Otherwise you're just another sad conspiracy theorist posting here.

    Stop posting idiocies. You're devaluing this forum. One Litwin is enough.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    personal attacks/baiting members is not a mature way to debate.

    now, what makes more sense: (Putin killed his opponent) or (a Western conspiracy is trying desperately to frame Putin, again and again and again to no avail)?
     
  3. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Dutch authorities know everything, but they aren't revealing anything because there is a foreign nation involved. I'm positive of this. Also as one government official told Robert Parry, when he asked why isn't the government revealing all the new information they have about the airliner shoot down: "Well Russia has the same language in Ukraine, and they have close proximity, but all we have is propaganda, so we're not going to give up that edge." In other words, they have no qualms about lying and deceiving the American people.

    If though a government does not reveal the truth to the people it represents, then how can it be a democracy since it's not really representing them?
    :confuse:
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    funny how folks attack this guy as a womanizer, a traitor, a Western-agent, a CIA-plant.....but then say Putin didn't kill him.

    ...but if he did kill him, he had every reason to, right?
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I love the way posters quote from newspapers controlled by the same governments committing the false flag attack. Lots of credibility there.:roll:
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice Goebbels repetitive propaganda trick there...but then again, all our actions are similar aren't they? I'm sure that pleases you no end.
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here is a two year old video of Putin warning about false flag attacks, and that he knows for a fact that there are people abroad who will turn someone into an involuntary martyr.

    [video=youtube;DcXUK8ij4sY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcXUK8ij4sY[/video]
     
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    what great Nemtsov made for the whole world? Nothing. The Ukrainian army kills every day children in the east of the country. For some reason not Poroshenko not Obama it isn't remembered. These are governors from the Satan!( troll like ... too)
     
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    Some were told that Nemtsov by the traitor, the western agent, but it not main - more influential in the fifth column, is Novalny for example. Why Putin to kill the little player? It is favorable, to more influential Novalny who dream for power. (for Obama his Boss also)Yes your Gebbelsky promotion is weak.
     
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    Divide and conquer! Didn't they try that already with Georgia a few years ago?
    Why would they fight the church?
    I dare say, he learned from history, specifically from WWII. Hitler walked into a trap set for him by Poland and the Brits.
    ...or too accommodating to the point of rolling over. The newly released Oligarch Khodorkovsky has ambitions to replace Putin, I heard. That would be the end of Russia as we know it.
    Yes, it was a dumb thing to join Obama with the sanctions. Especially Germany's betrayal was disappointing. But the Germans are under the boot of the US, they don't dare to protest or stand up against Washington.
    Hindsight is usually 20/20. We don't know what else the West has in store. Perhaps the Europeans feel they can trust the big mighty USA to guide them safely through the rough times ahead.
     
  11. litwin

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    what is really dirty here its Kremlin - tolls attempt (which is crime according Russian Criminal law) to cover (with pu$sy) the murderer. PS hi putler lawers here, Moscow police found this card on the crime scene what could it mean ?

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    what this story has to do with The Ukrainian army, an Ukrainian model etc?

    ps

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/...-murdered-kremlin-critic-150228235756637.html
     
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    dude, you're already made it clear that you believe 9-11 was an inside job. so the term is appropriate.
     
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    look like you dont feel sorry for Nemtsov, do you support Putler in this case as well?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    why did you post an article that clearly LIES?

    headline: "meet the pilot who shot down MH-17"

    and yet the pilot makes no such claim.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    false flag attack?

    got any evidence for this MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    Of course he doesnt admit it. He is in Kiev. The guy who loaded the missiles is the one who took the polygraph and exposed it. Thats like saying Lerner admitted criminal tax payer targeting. :roflol:
    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
  19. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, did Putin pay his millions of sheep to yell "false-flag!!" whenever another one of his opponents gets snuffed? or do they simply do it because of years of brainwashing and a natural tendency to believe their leaders are infallible?
     
  20. litwin

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    +1.............yes he does
     
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    LOL, now you have wandered so far off the reservation you are just making yourself into a joke.
     
  22. Jeannette

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    The Washington Post? Lot's of credibility there. :roflol: The USSR is gone, so we decided to become the new evil empire, but not only in mass murders, but in propaganda and mind control, as well.

    Here's what the Post article isn't telling you. Every country including the US limits the foreign ownership of newspapers, so don't you think Russia has a right to do the same?

    Now how about a few comments from some veteran reporters:


    US mass media outlets such as CBS, NBC, CNN, knowing that consumers are irrational, are attempting to lead viewers to conclude that Putin assassinated the Russian politician who was killed yesterday, or, at the very least, make them suspect as much. This is part of what veteran journalists John Pilger and Robert Parry have both said is the most stunning display of propaganda they have seen in their careers, both of which have spanned several decades.

    Another telling and interestingly related case is currently being displayed at NBC, which is headlining: Fatal Shooting of Cleveland Boy Tamir Rice Was Caused by His Own Actions: City

    So, while NBC (like the others) is nefariously peddling the conspiracy theory, based on zero evidence, that Putin is responsible for the killing in Russia, it is simultaneously trying to shift the blame for the execution of a twelve year old boy off the US government.
     
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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
    1. The headlong effort by the European Central Bank and its client governments in Germany, France, and Germany failed in their attempts to enable the Kiev coup-regime to win the civil war against the ethnic-Russian Donbass forces. Poroshenko and his Kiev gang are finished, and now Ukraine teeters on the brink of insolvency and utter bankruptcy. The central bankers had to "take their eye off the ball" in Ukraine to deal with Greece and all the other little European socialist mudholes that would like nothing better than to tell Germany to go (*)(*)(*)(*) itself!
    2. The equally headlong effort by the ECB and other central banks to destroy the Russian economy by manipulation of currency and commodity markets has been carried out with precision and professionalism, and yet Russia shows no signs of wavering in its resolve to pursue and attain its own targeted interests. Energy prices bottomed-out, but, in the past month the prices have been going back up again. It appears, therefore, that Russia is winning on this front, too....
    3. A silly series of smear campaigns has been launched against Putin for several months, culminating now in instantaneous, self-assured accusations by people who hate him that Vladimir Putin personally ordered the execution of Boris Nemtsov. Nemtsov could have been killed by a Russian criminal mob, by Islamo-terrorists, by "friends of Putin", or -- most intriguing of all -- as a "sacrificial victim"! This last theory is that, deprived of anything else to throw at Putin, his enemies ordered a hit on his most vocal, best-known critic in order to turn public opinion against him.

    Putin's current popularity, as measured by the respected, independent Levada Analytical Center, is a whopping 86%, in spite of all the economic difficulties caused to Russians by the central bankers: http://www.levada.ru/eng/

    IF it is true, then, the "sacrificial victim" theory is certainly well-timed -- just as the downing of the Malaysian airliner was last summer. In both instances, Putin had either won significant victories, or withstood huge attempts to destroy him and Russia.

    Hint: the wiser men among us agree -- there is really no such thing as coincidence in human affairs!
     
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    Funny..you are one of those types that points to the source knowing full well that the premise is based upon facts and that EVERY source will agree. Why are you denying an actual occurrence? Are you that brainwashed?

     
  25. Ronstar

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    another paranoid soviet-style conspiracy theory
     

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