Scott Walker’s Reforms Crushing Wisconsin’s Powerful Public Sector Unions

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  1. justlikethat

    justlikethat New Member

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    "Public sector unions are one step above organized crime. The Democrats give the unions absurdly generous contracts that private sector workers wouldn’t dream of and in return they pour millions of dollars into their campaigns, and the taxpayers get stuck with the bill.
    The latest tax documents available show yet again that Gov. Scott Walker’s efforts to curb the power of the state’s public sector unions have been very successful.

    While Walker and supporters of Act 10, which all but ended collective bargaining for most public workers, framed the bill as a way to help local governments reduce the costs of employee benefits, the legislation also included measures aimed at weakening unions financially by ending automatic dues deductions.


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    Private employess should have the right to form a union, but those who choose to do so should not be forced to pay the unions dues.

    There was once a time and place for unions but they never should have been in the public sector.
    Private unions have the right to collective bargaining between the union and the company.
    What about public unions and their collective bargaining, who are they bargaining with, none other than the politicians who were put in office with help of the unions political contributions.

    Sounds like organized crime to me, instead of gangsters paying off the cops to look the other way, unions are paying off the politicians.
     
  2. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There isn't a state out there that shouldn't adopt the Walker plan. Ones that are a bit squeamish about the whole thing can simply end automatic dues deductions. This would force the unions to send their goons to collect from the members. Over time members that have the goons lean on them for the dues will begin to resent it.
     
  3. justlikethat

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    If I had my choice, I would outlaw public unions altogether, it's nothing but a racket.
     
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    ^^^ This is correct. As public employees they are already protected.

    Also, once they have Democrats in office, they are basically negotiating with themselves against the citizens. It's a monster scam... see California.
     
  5. Grizz

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    Yeah. Sure is:

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    Imagine, union workers make more than non-union workers and whether you belong to a union or not, you still benefit.
     
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    Evidence of how much the union members were committed to solidarity and brotherhood is in the fact that after the requirement that the government collect mandatory dues was dropped, union membership in Wisconsin public employee unions has dropped off the table.

    Schools have more money to spend on education which actually resulted in retaining teacher jobs and even some raises as schools were relieved from having to pay double the cost for union health insurance vs. better insurance from private insurance companies.

    Private sector unions have decreased as the companies they drove into bankruptcy have disappeared. Only Obama's payoff to the automotive unions kept GM and Chrysler from biting the bullet. Volkswagen employees in Tenessee saw what the union did to their brothers jobs in Detroit and rejected the UAW despite a full court press from the Company and the UAW, including allowing union reps to contact employees directly on the shop floor.
     
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    Income has decreased as a whole because democrats blatantly destroyed our economy/workforce.
     
  8. publican

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    That's a crock of crap. Do a little homework on SEIU members, their pay and what they pay in dues.
     
  9. MrNick

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    Oh and I love how democrats will be the first ones in line to claim woman have the right to murder their children yet someone who wants a job should have NO choice on weather they want to join a labor union or not...
     
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    Maybe declining wages is why they quit the unions?? Maybe it is because the workers know that the criminal element is stealing the dues??
     
  11. Professor Peabody

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    How about selling out to Management? I knew the President of a Union where I worked that had his own key to the company owned ski lodge in Aspen.
     
  12. Grizz

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    Maybe you're wrong?

    One reason could be that belonging to a union is associated with making more money. The few workers who belong to one have median weekly earnings that are $207 more than for non-union workers. The middle class also makes much more in states with higher unionization rates.

    Maybe you'd rather have the company brass take most of your pay increases because they "worked harder for it"? Or maybe you're blowing smoke out your nether region.
     
  13. Sanskrit

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    As bigfoot sightings increase, leprechauns make more gold.

    Any more absurd and unfounded union label correlations for us?

    To the topic, gov unions should have never been allowed to form and should be abolished yesterday. They are a cancer on our public life, the source of a vast majority of leftist sewer pipe propaganda pouring out from their PR offices and visible here and elsewhere, and removing them is one of the best ways to get this country back on track. I'm liking Walker more and more every day, and expect the smears from the union label will only intensify.
     
  14. justlikethat

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    Your little union chart comes from the AFL-CIO, what do you expect them to tell you? :roflol:
     
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    I have a strong hunch that 80% or so of leftist posts to this forum come straight from union PR offices, specifically municipal unions. I doubt organizations like Cato, Heritage or other nonleft sources have the luxury of taxpayer largesse to fund such campaigns and repetition. We are all paying for this bilge in more ways than one, and municipal unions should be abolished yesterday. In the case of this forum, it stifles any reasonable political discussion, because they are not here to have a discussion, but to parrot and cut-paste the same union label created advertisements over and over without responding to any opposing views in any meaningful way, just repeat the ad. If they want to blanket the net world with propaganda, they should be forced to do so on their own dime, not the taxpayers'.
     
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    Ditto for the climate change propaganda they peddle.
    Every time a reputable source is cited against AGW, even peer reviewed articles, the moon bats cry that the scientists are paid off by big oil or the boogie man Koch Bros.

    It's pathetic.
     
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    You hit the nail on the head with that one statement!

    When public workers organize - they're organizing AGAINST the American taxpayer, which should never be allowed.
     
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    What I find so funny about a large majority of public union supporters is that they themselves (especially in the teaching field, I worked in the University of WI for 4 years) are usually for more government programs, claiming it is to help and protect the people.... So if that is true, and it really is what the government does; I ask why as employees of this benevolent helpful government do they need to band together to negotiate against it? Why would a government for the people and by the people that needs to increase its size and scope to make the lives of the people better, screw over its own employees to the point of needing a union? It's a massive contradiction in my mind.

    If its true that the government screws over its employees, then wouldn't it also make sense that it screws over the people it supposedly represents? I don't know I guess maybe I'm just not thinking "logically".
     
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    Notice how the biggest drop coincides with the flood of illegals.
     
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    In places like this, people who don't pay union dues, should have to negotiate and deal with the employer on their own. No help or protection from the Union.
     
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    His last quote came from Stink Progress. :roflol:
     
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    Oh, that were possible. I've never wanted criminal extortionists representing me.
     
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    If we operated under basic supply and demand ideas and economics it wouldn't matter... And we wouldn't have union delegates making 250,000 dollar salaries while they complain about the rich like Al Sharption..
     
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    That could backfire as the employer would have an incentive to give the non union folks a better deal just to drive out the union.
     
  25. Stuart Wolfe

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    Dear Scott Walker:

    Please run for governor of California if the president thing doesn't work out.

    Sincerely, all the NORMAL teachers in California.
     

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