Where is Putin? Russian leader’s absence sparks rumors.

Hunger - the best cure for idiocy.
Ukraine 2015:
Industry - -22.5% (-21.3% in January)
Construction - - 31.2% (-36.7% in January)
Traffic (January-February.) - - 22.3% (-23.5%)
Passenger traffic (January-February.) - - 15.8% (-13.4%)

Remember how in the old Italian film "The Taming of the obstinate man", Ornella Muti says Celentano about method laughter in cinematography? The man slipped on a banana peel and fell - all laugh. Adriano says - "it is painful." But when fell Ornella Muti, Celentano laughed and said: "I understand. It's really funny".

In the 90s many people in the EU and the US (and others) made fun of Russia. Now - it's time to laugh Russian. And Russian understand that it is really funny.

 

I'm not confused. Your flag says Germany, so it is only logical that I would think you are from Germany. How in the heck would I know where you are from?

It was American money that rebuilt Germany and other parts of Europe. Our PEOPLE gave billions dollars for that purpose. Of course most of the money would go to one of our allies. What is WRONG with you?

Preventing the spread of communism is a good thing too.

 

You aren't paying attention. I said that if we had stayed and occupied Iraq, there would be no ISIS in Iraq today. We should have not made any "withdrawal" deal and only leave on OUR terms.

And why on earth should we not do things that are in OUR best interests? Of course we should. We shouldn't sacrifice our money and lives and get nothing in return. That's insane!

 

In fact, it is my belief that we should no longer give aid money to any other countries, except our best and most loyal allies. OUR money should be going to help our own people here in America. Screw you guys. Take care of your damn selves for a change. Lol. We are NOT your daddy or your mommy.

 

you can see in the mirror.

 

Very funny. You would pay off the debts. Without new loans, you will die of hunger. You also do not have anything. Soon the US will become one big Detroit.

 

That's what you would hope for, but that is not going to happen. The US is still one of the richest countries in the world and the most powerful and influential. I think you are envious, so wish bad things to happen to America. We are used to this kind of envy and hatred. No biggie.

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Nope, Russia has an unprecedented problem with alcoholism. Lots of poor little babies in orphanages who suffer from fetal alcohol syndrome. That's your problem.

Also, why don't you address the meat of my post. Do you actually think the US should sacrifice lives and money and get nothing in return for that? Just take care of you? I don't think so.

 

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/how-alcohol-conquered-russia/279965/

Picture the Russian alcoholic: nose rosy, face unshaven, a bottle of vodka firmly grasped in his hands. By his side he has a half-empty jar of pickles and a loaf of rye bread to help the devilish substance go down. The man is singing happily from alcohol-induced jubilation. His world may not be perfect, but the inebriation makes it seem that way.

Today, according to the World Health Organization, one-in-five men in the Russian Federation die due to alcohol-related causes, compared with 6.2 percent of all men globally. In her 2000 article “First Steps: AA and Alcoholism in Russia,” Patricia Critchlow estimated that some 20 million Russians are alcoholics in a nation of just 144 million.

The Russian alcoholic was an enduring fixture during the Tsarist times, during the times of the Russian Revolution, the times of the Soviet Union, during the transition from socialist autocracy to capitalist democracy, and he continues to be in Russian society today. As Heidi Brown described in her 2011 article for World Policy Journal, the prototypical Russian alcoholic sits on broken park benches or train station steps, smoking a cigarette and thinking about where his next drink will come from and whether he can afford it.

The Russian government has repeatedly tried to combat the problem, but to little avail: “this includes four ... reforms prior to 1917, and larger-scale measures taken during the Soviet period in 1958, 1972, and 1985. After each drastically stepped-up anti-alcohol campaign, [Russian] society found itself faced with an even greater spread of drunkenness and alcoholism,” explains G.G. Zaigraev, professor of Sociological Sciences and Head Science Associate of the Institute of Sociology at the Russian Academy of Sciences, in the journal Sociological Research.

“The Kremlin’s own addiction to liquor revenues has overturned many efforts to wean Russians from the tipple,” as Mark Lawrence Schrad wrote in the The New York Times last year. “Ivan the Terrible encouraged his subjects to drink their last kopecks away in state-owned taverns” to help pad the emperor’s purse.

 

Very funny. You forgot to tell us about drunken bears on Red Square.



Have you looked in the mirror?

 

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The US is not a rich country. US country - the largest debtor in the history of mankind. And then there is nothing to envy.

Russia has a problem with alcohol is much smaller than in the US. This is if you do not talk about addiction in the United States, where the president - a lover of marijuana (Obama himself said about it), and the Secretary of State - a lover of cocaine. So once again - look in the mirror.

This is better you talking to Iraqis, Serbs, Afghans ........ Libyans, Syrians, .... Vietnamese. They will tell you about the American "aid".

 

several posts ago u mentioned that u are not old enaff - grow up-)) this forum is for mature people, come back when u ripen.

While u are failed to back the anecdot about altruistic help of usa to europe u start to bring myths about how the altruistic badass america brought the peace and freedom to whole the world not getting anything back in return. U better decide if u was helping to get something in return or u was giving the help to rebuilt europe as a major fact. It seems like u are imposing selfish murica interests as a biggest favor of all the rest of the world. As someone mentioned above USA wud never give a sh-it if it doesn't gets something what makes them a benefit. So leave ur pro altruistic la la la for those who believe in democracy. as its a major tool of ur propaganda which suddenly isn't work for rest of the world.

 

This is the best thing what you can do- not to invest money to make revolutions in other countries, not to spend money to run wars in Middle East and in Europe.
Better spend it on your social security benefits. Everyone will benefit from it.

 

If there were institutional procedures, then there would not be a coup in Kiev last year, and there would not be any issues now about Crimea.
There was a precedent of separation of Kosovo, which was OK for the EU community, so the separation of Crimea from Ukraine can be justified just only on the basis of Kosovo case. In jurisprudence this is a normal practice to resolve the issues on the basis of a precedent.

 

You see, Russians don't wont to realize that about Kosovo they lost ...

The point that you miss is that about Kosovo, it wasn't NATO to invade that land or to start the conflict, but it was a local matter and only after that Serbians intervened in a military way NATO acted.

Simply that defeat still burns at Moscow ...

 

Crimea is also a local matter between Russia and Ukraine. It should not concern third countries. You probably do not know, but people who came to power in Kiev,brought a lot of military people to the border with Crimea as soon as Crimea claimed they wanted to make a referendum. But Russia was one step ahead of Kiev movements and sent extra special forces to keep the situation stable. Or you suggest that Russia should have waited for the start of the war in Crimea and then send troops? And I am 100% sure there was a war.
Yes, Kosovo was lost because of the absence of a strong leader in Russia who could conduct a determined external politics. It was a failure of Russian diplomacy. Now it is vice versa. NATO, US and EU can jump out of their pants, but can do nothing about return of Crimea under jurisdiction of Russian Federation. They lost Crimea.

 

Yes, we lost Crimea. So now it's

NATO 1 - Russia 1

Let's see how the matches about Georgia and other Eastern Ukrainian regions go ...

 

I would typify that as:

US1 - Russia 1

NATO is becoming a crumbling alliance and won't survive as a meaningful entity. A major shift occurred in 2008 at the NATO summit in Bucharest when George Bush announced that Georgia and Ukraine would join NATO against the express wishes of Russia, Germany and France.

The US is now acting unilaterally in the Ukraine. Germany and France ("old Europe" to use George Bush's term) wish to have good relations with Russia. Hence they acted together with Russia to negotiate a ceasefire in Ukraine. The US wasn't invited to attend, nor consulted about it - until after the event.

The world has changed.

 

Nice try ... a communication strategy is not enough to divide the Atlantic Alliance ... Soviets were not able to do this persuading Italian Communists in the period of the historical "rip" from Moscow [late 70's], imagine today ...

 

Looked in the mirror? Of course, I do that every single day. Why do you ask?

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Well, you can just keep telling yourself if it makes you feel better.

 

Again, I disagree.

US unilateral actions in Ukraine against the wishes of the EU are well beyond a "communications" blip. Check out the background disagreements at the NATO Bucharest summit of 2008.

Once the US acts unilaterally and then tries to force their "allies" to adhere to a policy manufactured entirely in Washington, and for the sole benefit of Washington and the US - and to the detriment of Europe, then we see the sea changes that are now happening openly. Nuland stated the new US policy most succinctly when she said "F*ck the EU." And the EU and other US allies are now responding accordingly. They have rushed to join the Chinese AIIB even as they ignore the increasingly shrill cries from Washington not to join.

The world is changing. Fast.

And speaking of Italian communists, we should also remember the ultra right and former Mussolini fascists in Italy and elsewhere in Europe at the time. I mention this as you'll also remember the Bologna bombing and other awful atrocities manufactured by the NATO/SHAPE Gladio network.

 

As I have yet to see any verifiable data pertaining to the United States supplying anything beyond diplomatic support to the Ukraine and the opposie for the Russian invasion of it....perhaps you could provide this rather than project you opinion without anything to back it up?

 

Well, let's see who is the one projecting here shall we.

Firstly, to find the "data" you haven't yet found, this is what you do. Load Google with a search term and press return. Then read. It's as simple as that.

There is so much on it I barely know where to start.

But I have already posted several on this forum that relate to this. One good place to start is Stratfor's CEO George Friedman's presentation at the Chicago Council on Foreign Affairs last month. Friedman makes it clear that the US was behind the coup d'etat in Ukraine, and refers to it as the most obvious coup in history. He also makes it clear why the US did this. It's a long listen, but you asked, right - and I'm sure you really do want to be properly informed.

You could also try Prof. John Mearsheimer's short presentation in Brussels on March 2nd entitled: "The West Blew It Big time And irreversibly Endangered European Security." (he declines to use the word "USA" but rather uses the word the "west", but it's not a difficult task to track back to his references and see that is actually the US who he is blaming).

Both are on this forum and also available on Youtube.

 

I see....so rather than accept your own opinions without verifiable data, you wish me to accept the opinions of other without verifiable data?

I have researched and attempted to "Google" information that shows the United States created the new Ukraine or supplied military assistance in any measurable way...to no avail. I have even asked for your assistance in finding it as you seem to have data no one else does, you instead guide me toward the opinions of others who also lack the information to back up said opinions.

It would seem to me quite a simple thing to provide this information if you already have it.

 

You've got to love it. Some U.S posters want to debate but their lack of basic understanding of English vocabulary is so glaring that it hurts eyes. Take for example Tecoyah, it doesn't even know the meaning of the word 'invasion'...Few examples of 'invasion'....Afghanistan, Iraq, Kosovo...etc...etc...

 

US what? Angela Merkel is well more involved in the Ukrainian matter than Obama and US administration ...

About Gladio [the stay behind structure, I mean, the NATO organization prepared to act in case of Soviet invasion of Italy] it has been matter of political battle for years in Italy, then it came the Mitrokhin archive and it made the pair ...