Zimmerman: Killing Trayvon was God's plan, wishing he lived is blasphemous....

Only two extremes are possible with such black and white thinking. The truth lies between those two options, possibly nearer the second.

 

No, I didn't know that because I don't consider you a thug when a coward is after you with a gun.

 

I think the truth was discovered during an extensive trial......just sayin'

 

Again....you are making assumptions that Trayvon was just on a innocent errand to the store....he did go to the store but it is also very possible the reason he was lingering and lollygaggin around in the complex was to scope out a target for a burglary.....on that dark and rainy night with no one around to notice what he was up to .....except George.........anyhow there was absolutely no reason for George to identify himself....the main reason for the policy of watchmen not interacting with suspects or identifying himself as a watchman is simply because of the possibility the suspect may be a criminal engaged in some criminal activity and possibly armed and dangerous and thus it would be risky for a watchman to get involved personally in such a scenario....that is why they are told not to do that but simply report what is going on to the police and let the police handle the situation....something which george had done many times before...he was just following standard operating procedure on that dark and rainy night.

Also...as has been pointed out Trayvon had absolutely no good excuse for coming back to confront George.....he had eluded George which was proven in the trial...he was close to home if not at home when he called his g/f back and described the situation......how he had eluded george......and it has been pointed out Trayvon thought george was a gay white guy and it is also very possible that Trayvon was trying to prove something to his g/f by taking down a gay guy maybe Trayvon also had homersexual inclinations which he was trying to supress and deny ----these feelings perhaps brought to the surface by his mistaken impression that George was perhaps trying to pick him up for sex.

Anyhow for whatever reason and there was no good reason for trayvon to go back and confront George no matter what Trayvon thought...one can only conclude that Trayvon wanted a confrontation...that Trayvon definitely wanted a confrontation otherwise he would not have gone back. This is just simple logic. The reason most folks are coinfused about this is that they never got all the facts, did not watch the trial...instead they listened to the media which further exacerbated their prejudiced opinions and erroneous conclusions....you can easily and plainly see that on this thread.

 

Exactly....the problem is that some prejudiced people simply cannot and will not accept the truth because it conflicts their 'agenda'....again---George was fortunate to have a very courageous jury --that despite the threats made against them.... were willing to listen to to all the facts and come to a honest conclusion and present it to the world despite all the hostility and lynch mob fever that the media had whipped up.

 

George thinks he an instrument of God... OK... I think he wants donations.

 

Let me pose a simple question....just for arguments sake ....say you are right....George was out to kill a black guy....that he was looking for a black guy to kill....why did he not just shoot Trayvon when Tray circled around his truck scoping him out....why did he let trayvon run away and then according to you track him down and shoot him...would it not have been easier just to shoot him in the beginning and if he intended to kill trayvon as you suggest....why did he call the police.?...ya know just sayin.

 

What a hateful, hate-filled reply. Congrats. Ugh.

 

George sold one painting for over $100,000 Dollars....now of course you have a right to express your hatred of George....I would suggest though that your income level does not compare to his and much less ... to his potential earning power which is zooming through the roof as his popularity increases and much more so now that he is free to speak ...no longer having to worry about Eric Holder(forced to resign) and his threats.

http://www.thenewsnerd.com/local/george-zimmerman-sells-trayvon-martin/


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...=pgrUFDQfF2YJC-rM4xp7Hg&bvm=bv.89217033,d.eXY

 

Actually they have video of Trayvon buying candy and a drink at the convenience store.

 

He was unemployed and couldn't finish school or pay his rent. His parent had to sign his lease because he'd been evicted so many times... Selling ONE painting for $100 K is not impressive..

And I made far more than that for over 20 years......

You should send George a donation. He's homeless and a million dollars in debt.

 

The truth isn't always pretty, but I prefer it to fantasyland.

 

You're just itching for a fight, aren't you? In all my posts, I never ONCE implied that I tho't TM was on an innocent trip to the store. I never ONCE said either way what he was up to b/c I DIDN'T KNOW b/c I WASN'T THERE.

I did post several times that I felt his father was negligent in allowing his 3rd time suspended son who couldn't seem to keep himself out of trouble the freedom to go off by himself into the night - no consequences for his boy.... no red flags for that daddy.

I had also said MANY times that TM made a choice b/t being safe in his home or looking for trouble and he chose looking for trouble. I watched the trial. His g/f said he told her he was 'close to home', but he didn't go home, as we all know.....he made a choice that was a deadly one.......

So we have a difference of opinion about a NW guy identifying himself or not and I'm sticking to mine. I see nothing wrong w/a NW guy saying to someone who appears to be lost or just a stranger..."Hey, I'm the Neighborhood Watch dude (he wouldn't have to give his name). You seem to be lost. Can I help you in some way?" There's nothing wrong w/speaking words of helpfulness, a tone of friendliness...... by speaking up, more often than not, can eliminate problems and/or confusion about who each person is. To me, that's only common sense and a courtesy......

To keep up the silent eye-balling each other wouldn't help anyone. All that does is create suspicion and speculation... but that's my opinion.

I had also said MANY times that GZ had every right to protect himself and if he had to use his gun to save his life.... that's his right.

"Maybe Trayvon also had homosexual inclinations that he was trying to supress and deny"....... what the hell?! Where did that stuff come from? Aren't you getting a little bit carried away here? The kid's sex life has nothing to do w/that incident.....

And I'll say this again for the umpteenth time.....all 3 people involved in this were stupid. Daddy Martin, his troubled son and GZ. No one is a hero here.....

 

You 'think', but of course you don't know and never will.......

I had once asked you and others a question and never got an answer. Maybe this time I'll get lucky...... but doubt it.

My question: If that had been your husband/son as a NW guy and his situation was the same as GZ's.... would you condemn your husband/son for using his gun when he was attacked and beaten?

 

My sons, brothers etc are not cowards or fools.. They would have spoken to TM.. and they wouldn't be creeping around in the dark night after night with a gun.

 

There you go again trying to distort the facts of the case: George was in his truck on the way to the store when he spotted the suspect.

He decided to report trayvon as a suspicious person since trayvon was lollygaggin about on a dark and rainy night...not normal behavior...as most would be hurrying home to get out of the rain. If trayvon had not decided to attack george...the police would have arrived...george would have talked to the police and that would have been the end of it.

Your son or your brother may well have been attacked the moment they stepped out of their vehicle to speak with trayvon...and if unarmed could have been beaten to death....if it had gone down that way...no one would have ever heard of your brother or your son...there might have been a article in the back pages of the local paper....such assaults by blacks on whites occur all too often and never generate much coverage. Deal wid it.

 

Well, those who support Trayvon no doubt would prefer that george voluntarily give up his life rather than defend it....since they believe black lives count but white lives do not.

 

I had asked a simple question. Why can't you answer it?

The fact is - a person doesn't have to be a coward or fool to be sucker punched and find himself on the ground, being beaten. That can happen to the best of them...... now would you condemn your son/brother if that happened to them and they shot the thug and killed him? I think that's a fair question.......are you going to answer?

And 'creeping around night after night w/a gun'? Where does that stuff come from?

 

Wow, I was actually on his side until reading that.....

 

George crept around EVERY night with his gun.

How do you KNOW he was on his way to the store?

 

Well, how do YOU know GZ 'crept around every night w/his gun'? And even if he had, what does that have to do w/that night w/TM?

If your son/brother had the same encounter as GZ, would you condemn them for shooting the assailant? Be honest......

 

Well, do you have any proof of that....were you following him or sumptin?

Irregardless.....look what happened in Ferguson....the thug in that case clearly knew he was attacking a police officer...yet that did not stop him...not only knew he was attacking a police officer but he also knew the police officer had a weapon....now what makes you think trayvon would not attack a lowly volunteer neighborhood watchman who did not appear to be armed?

Those who put forth narratives like yours actually contradict yourselves....on the one hand you say George should not have gotten out of his truck....but then you turn around and say George should have gotten out of his truck to have a conversation with Trayvon......all the while conveintly forgetting all a watchman is supposed to do is to observe and report. You and those who think like you want to put all the responsibility for the incident on George's shoulders aka he was a wannabee cop(which is more honerable...aspring to be a policeman or aspiring to be a gangsta?) he followed a suspect....forgetting or not knowing he was merely doing that to try and answer the dispathcers question....where or in which direction was the suspect running? Also why do you think Trayvon was running to begin with? George had said nothing to him....perhaps he saw George on the phone and rightly assumed George was calling the police...why else would Trayvon run?

 

George's neighbors were interviewed..

I would not condemn anyone for shooting an assailant, however George was playing cop and was far too stupid to speak..

I don't suffer fools.

 

You are making stuff up...none of the neighbors said George crept around every night with a weapon.

George was doing what a watchman is supposed to do....observe and report. He had reported many suspects before....never had a problem before. Your narrative lacks credibility...sounds more like sour grapes cuz George was exonerated.

BTW how do you think George was playing a cop? He did not attempt to arrest trayvon, did not attempt to handcuff or restrain him in any way....he did nothing that cops usually do when confronted with a suspect.....all George did was to call the police.


You sound very coinfused about this matter.

 

That's just it, it was no where near extensive.

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Who made the claim that he was just out to shoot Trayvon?

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That's just it he was doing more than just observing and reporting. JW Milam and Roy Bryant were exonerated.

Yep.

How do you know he wasn't trying to restrain him?