Holy cow! New report says MSNBC is moving to the right

So now you ignore the fact that your claim to have asked me the question in the previous post was false and 2) then accuse me of having a double standard even though I have clearly stated that have attacked both sides for propaganda.

Straw man after Straw man from the King of straw.

 

Yap, yap, yap. Do ALL networks have bias or not?

 

They certainly do.

That's human nature.

But the one you're defending claims it does not, even as it violates even the most elementary standards of journalism in a never ending effort to entertain its audience.

 

Yes they do.

 

Thank you.

 

Good, yer learnin'.

Wrong! I claim that their NEWS is not biased. Of course their opinions are. Who's aren't? You FDS sufferers hate FOX' opinions and conflate it with their news. THAT is the problem lefties have.

 

There is no real separation between what it calls news, and editoralizing on Fox.

They count on the audience not knowing the difference, and conservatives here on PF justify their confidence every day.

The fact is that the Second Floor requires Fox presenters to work partisan talking points into their "news" content all day long. You see Fox presenters making editorial asides in their "reporting" constantly. It's company policy. Straight news will get you straight to the sidewalk on Sixth Ave at Fox.

Of course, a lot of apoligists for Fox try and draw a largely non existant distinction between their daytime "news" content and the commentary of folks like Bill O'Liely. But Fox represents O'Reilly's program as "hard hitting, investigative journalism" on its website. O'Reilly himself claims to be a correspondent. Of course, there is not investigative journalism being done by O'Reilly, and he hasn't been a reporter or a correspondent since before he went to work for Roger Ailes, but the audience doesn't know any better.

 

Then same goes for the other networks. Or was Dan Rather editorializing in his lying hit piece on Bush.

 

The same is not true of all of news organizations.

Nor do real news organization pt political candidates on their payroll and let them campaign for themselves while paying them to do it. Fox did that with every 2012 GOP Presidential candidate except Romney.

Real news organizations do not actively promote candidates, and they don't hand checks to their campaigns, as Fox and News Corp do.

Real news organizations aren't run by political operatives. Fox is.

Real news organizations don't read White House talking points over the air and misrepresent them as reporting.

Real new organizations don't take kickbacks from right wing think thanks for reading their press releases on the air and misleading the audience into believing that it's the host's original commetary. Rush Limbaugh does.

And as for the fiction that Fox separates news from commetary:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...lt-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525?page=10



BTW, Rather's piece about Bush was accurate. Bush did use family connections to get into a "champagne unit", and did pull strings to shirk duty.

 

Your liberal bias is noted.

Rather quit because he lied. The sobbing slime-ball had it in for the Bush family forever. Nice 'journalism'.

 

None the less, the story was true, and never refuted or even denied.

Rather was forced out of CBS by the chairman of Viacom, CBS's parent at the time. He was a major Bush fundraiser.

The only problem with the Rather story was the mysterious documents, which showed up at the last minute. The story was corraborated by multiple witnesses, most of whom appeared on the air.

The documents were another thing. I've always found it suspicious that right wing blogs attacked the documents and went into detail over how they must be forgeries before the show was even off the air. It had all the earmarks of an orchestrated campaign. CBS fell into the trap.

I have always suspected that Karl Rove was behind those documents. They fit his tactics.

 

Wrong. He lied and made things up like his buddy Brian Williams. Libs on the major networks have that problem.

 

With each passing election YOU will see that the American people are waking up, but you will soon find that
you are standing alone. a minority that's uninformed and holds on to LIES.


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Lemme guess, you a big Brian Williams fan? MSNBC? The alphabet networks? Figures.

 

I realize that you think something is a fact just because you said it, but Rather did not lie.

Bush did use family connections to avoid the draft and to shirk his National Guard duties.

Moreover, that was hardly much in dispute by the time the Rather story appeared, either. Although, erasing Bush's National Guard service records had been job number one for Bush fixer, Joe Albaugh (under Rove's supervision) when Bush became governor.

Under the circumstances, the 60 Minutes crew should have been doubly suspicious of these document, given Bush's well known efforts to hide any written documentation of his National Guard service.

 

http://www.latimes.com/la-112304rather_lat-story.html

The hard-charging Rather has been under fire in recent months for his role in a "60 Minutes Wednesday" story that questioned President Bush's service in the National Guard, which turned out to be based on allegedly forged documents.

So only in lib-land is forgery not a lie.

 

Well, if that''s the case, we just admitted Texas! (we were going to anyway, either in 2016 or 2020!)

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/276-74/10976-focus-dan-rather-was-right-about-george-w-bush

 

That is the case. Your sobbing hero lied.

Two liars for the price of one...............

 

How typical of you to put Brian Williams up on a screen when Bill O'Liely did exactly the same thing and he's not only still on the air, but wingnuts are cheering for the fact that his boss Roger Ailes said it doesn't matter if he lies!

That's all that anyone needs to know about Fox.

Oh, and back to the OP, there is no equivelant to right wing talk radio on the left.

You've all but admitted that you don't care if your favorite media celebrities lie to you or not.

 

........next to another lib liar. Fits like a glove.

Other POS' you lefties love............

 

Well, then there's these guys!

 

The more that leaks out the worse it looks. Time to close the doors and cut the losses ? Did Obama, Pelosi and Reid destroy the progressive movement in America ?

Through early March, Chris Hayes' viewership at 8 p.m. on weekdays was down 23 percent from last year, Rachel Maddow was off 24 percent and Lawrence O'Donnell down 26 percent. Among the 25-to-54-year-old demographic that is the basis for advertising sales, the prime-time lineup lost nearly half its audience. Daytime isn't much better.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...boss_faces_challenge_fixing_msnbc_126089.html

 

No it's not.

What's happening in reality is that the "Right" has shifted far to the left.