U.S. Iranian Officials Say Framework For Nuclear Deal Reached

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    U.S. Iranian Officials Say Framework For Nuclear Deal Reached

    The Huffington Post | By Eline Gordts | Posted: 04/02/2015 1:42 pm EDT
    Excerpts:

    "Iran and six world powers agreed to a framework for a final deal on Iran's controversial nuclear program, officials announced Thursday. "We have reached solutions on key parameters on a joint comprehensive plan of action," EU foreign affairs chief Federica Mogherini said Thursday at a press conference in Lausanne, Switzerland.

    The understanding paves the way for the start of a final phase of talks that aims to reach a comprehensive agreement by the end of June. The agreement concludes weeks of intense negotiations and comes two days beyond the initial March 31 deadline for an outline deal."

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    "U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry wrote on Twitter that Iran and the six international powers negotiating with it had agreed on the "parameters to resolve major issues" on Iran's nuclear program. Representatives of Iran and the so-called P5+1 group - the permanent members of the U.N. Security Council and Germany - have been negotiating a deal about restrictions on Iran's nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

    International powers aim to impose limits on Iran's nuclear enrichment program, which they fear Tehran is using to build a nuclear weapon. Iran insists the program is only for peaceful purposes and that it has a right to enrichment. However, Tehran desperately needs relief from sanctions the international community has imposed on the nation."

    read more:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/02/iran-nuclear-deal_n_6993060.html
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    IMO: We appear to be well on our way to solving the Iran - U.N. negotiations on the restrictions on Iran's nuclear program in exchange for relief of the sanctions that have been put on them.

    The next step will be the final writing of the pact that has been negotiated and the world will feel a little bit safer because of this momentous decision making process with all it's drama, and Congressional hoopla of a Senator Cotton's sending a letter to the Iranian leader not to make any pacts with President Obama because it will be easily overturned.

    Then the arrival of an unannounced visitor Netanyahu to address Congress popped in for a grandstand play for Israeli followers in Congress with no success for him. But now the pact is near to completion and we will have a safer world to bring up our children.
     
  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like we have a big bag of nothing.
     
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    ROFL! These Obama Administration losers moved the goal posts in a huge way.

    [​IMG]
     
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    What Should we do?
     
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    To be honest republicans should not have any impact on foreign policy because they lead us to the worst war in american history. It really should be up to independents and democrats.
     
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    Whaaa?
     
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    Simple.

    Drive our domestic oil and gas production through the roof and bankrupt both Iran and Russia.

    Done and done. They won't be able to afford anything.
     
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    I wish it were that simple. To do that someone would have to grow a backbone, tell the Wall Street boys that they can't trade oil and gas anymore, tell the EPA to take a walk and lift the bans on the areas nobody is allowed to drill on, approve the Keystone Pipeline, and tell OPEC to stick it up their nose. (sorry for the harsh language).. Even then our supplies and what we have domestically could only sustain us for a few decades.. What good do we do to bankrupt these countries?
     
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    So, when we mash all the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) out of this "news", what we've really got is yet another series of delays, and a pushed-out deadline to the end of June before there can be a "comprehensive agreement"? Is that it? THIS is Obama's big accomplishment? All these delays and all these extensions up until now, and we've still got NOTHING?!


    [​IMG] "Tough negotiations? Are you kidding? It was as easy as flipping pages in a calendar!"
     
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    President Jarrett is getting everything she wants.
     
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    Qualify this statement or admit to being a fear mongering no-nothing.
     
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    My statement:

    This is quite possibly the biggest loss we have seen in negotiations since Chamberlain gave in to Hitler.

    What a total failure.

    Sure Joe... but let's start with I am not such a sheep to believe what the Mainstream Media tells me. I saw CNN's bogus headline.

    This is why I wrote it:

    (1) Iran Accuses U.S. of Lying About New Nuke Agreement

    ust hours after the announcement of what the United States characterized as a historic agreement with Iran over its nuclear program, the country’s leading negotiator lashed out at the Obama administration for lying about the details of a tentative framework.

    (2) Iran Brags About Concessions - No Nukes Sites to Be Closed

    Iran and world powers on Thursday announced that following the latest round of nuclear negotiations, Western powers agreed to permit Iran to continue operating the core aspects of its nuclear program

    (3) Research and Development of Nuclear Weapons Will Continue

    (4) Deal a capitulation, will give Iran ‘a military nuclear program’


    “If an agreement is reached based on the guidelines of this framework, that would be an historic mistake which will transform the world into a much more dangerous place.”

    (5) All Sanctions to Be Terminated.

    (6) Iran militia chief: Destroying Israel is ‘nonnegotiable’ (2 Days Ago)


    But, hey rejoice Liberals. You're idiot president just made the world a more dangerous place and the Iranians are literally dancing in the streets.

    [​IMG]


    I wonder what a better world this would be had Barack Obama had not let those rebelling in Iran die in the streets a few short years ago and instead supported them. Ah well, dream a dream.
     
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    Did you mean "know-nothing"...? What is a "no-nothing"... did you mean Obama? Gotta stay on top of that kind of thing or someone might confuse you with a know-nothing! :smile: Parenthetically, Obama is about the biggest bunch of nothingness I've ever seen in the White House in my life! And this No! Nothing! inconsequential "framework" nonsense is quite the feather in his cap....

    Anyway, if you'd like to see just how pathetic this great Obama "triumph" of negotiation really is, just take a look what the Iranians are saying about it:
    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-accuses-u-s-of-lying-about-new-nuke-agreement/
    http://freebeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Media+Note+-+April+2+2015+-+Lausanne.pdf

    Looks like the guy who said that we could keep our health insurance plans if we liked them has LIED again -- or -- if he has merely put a completely contorted spin on this joke of a "framework" agreement, it is certain that the Iranians do NOT intend to comply with the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) that Obama is putting out.

    Either way, the verbiage in this "framework" is so unlikely to be enforced that the Iranians should have no difficulty at all stockpiling fissile material and assembling it into weapons. How much more progress will Iranians have made by the end of June, when the next big champagne-and-caviar party is planned in Switzerland? And if they push the whole comical thing out again for several more months -- what then? Oh, and the sanctions...?! :roflol:

    [​IMG] The more things go on changing, the more they remain the same....
     
  15. k995

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    I dont see what the US said the deal was and what the iranians say the deal is.

    Can you tell where is the difference and where Obama lied?

    And how would you know that this not definite plan is unlikely to be enforced?

    And do you mean iran would continue with what its doing now?



    DO tell what your solution is?
     
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    I flicked on the TV yesterday just before Obama spoke when the local station had interrupted regular programming, so I listened to what both he and Kerry had to say. Right now, I'm not seeing a problem with moving forward with the plan they outlined toward a final agreement in June. The silliness of those on the right comparing this to Chamberlain's capitulation in Munich are nothing but the same doom and gloom prophets of nonsense we hear every day on rant radio, and the predicted massive catastrophes never happen. The mostly restrained happiness by the Iranian people is not some thrill about putting one over on the "great Satan" as some fools would have you believe, but a cautious recognition that the economy of their country may now get back to where they were so many years ago before Obama and the nations of the world dropped the hammer on them. My view is also one of cautious optimism and will continue to improve as each part of the agreement is finalized and eventually starts to happen. In the meantime - hats off to Obama and Kerry.
     
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    If it holds up, it could be the biggest move towards real peace in the region since the Camp David accords.

    If not, we haven't really lost anything.
     
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    When you cite a trashy blog like Washington Free Beacon (which has a reputation for this sort of baloney) as a primary source, your credibility isn't any better than theirs is.

    Even the most casual Google search turns up no report like this anywhere else in the world, where the reaction has been overwhelmingly positive.

    But the American far right wing, and the con men who profit from feeding their outrage, are the outliers.

    Of course, this is not the first false story that they have run about Iran, and not the first where they have simply made things up.

    But, I expect in a couple of hours, a few of the lessor trash blogs will have cribbed the story, and the right wing radio ranters are deciding whether to plug it.
     
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    Are you Liberals not following? What CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS reported is a lie. It's propaganda. They are looking for "Useful Idiots" to believe and repeat this lie.

    The Iranians were pretty clear.

    Barack Obama is Lying About the Deal.

    Try not to be their pawn.
     
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    Iran has not said that Obama is lying about the deal.

    your only source, is a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) blog.
     
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    I am following closely.

    Unlike you, (apparantly), NBC, ABC, and CBS are not primary sources. I did see some discussion about it on MSNBC late last night, but my primary source is the NYT, and it doesn't take much in the way of a Google search to see that if the television networks you claim are lying, are indeed lying, they have a lot of company all over the world.

    Everywhere that is, except the Washington Free Beacon!
     
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    soooo, the liars have not told the truth? shocking.
     
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    I didn't cite a blog. I cited a news story, the meat of which stated, "Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif accused the Obama administration of misleading the American people and Congress in a fact sheet it released following the culmination of negotiations with the Islamic Republic."

    Next, I suppose you'll have us believe that that this man doesn't actually exist, and is merely a figment of some right-wing imagination...? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Javad_Zarif

    If you want to place your faith and trust in a lunatic, Islamo-Nazi regime whose Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, was leading a crowd chanting, "Death to America" just last week, then go ahead and do it!

    Now that the United States has decided to just blow this whole thing off until the end of June (or whenever), it is all up to Israel. Israel will either remove this lethal pestilence to all non-Muslims from human civilization, or Israel will be exterminated. It isn't any more complicated than that! Those who hate Israel, or who are, at best, completely indifferent to its survival won't care if Iran "wipes it off the face of the map".

    We'll see how well this egocentric Left-wing ennui holds up when the Islamo-Nazis begin destructive attacks on Europe and the United States. And you know who's really laughing their asses off over this whole botched Obamanite series of blunders...? RUSSIA. Think about it....

    [​IMG] "What? Somebody just turned Tel Aviv into a pile of cinders?! Aw, you're KIDDING me...."
     
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    Obama's history of transparency, honesty and foreign policy success inspire such great confidence, doesn't it? Face it, Obama's reputation is such that whatever he's saying the exact opposite is most likely the truth. They say history repeats itself and Obama has a history of lying.
     
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    Compared to Bush obama seems a boyscout.
    But i asked a simple questions and this isnt even close to a response, where did he lie here?

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    Again what is your solution?

    Let me guess start another trillion dollar war?
     

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